The Democrats shouldn’t have wasted a year of campaign time running a cognitively-impaired man and then replaced him with a milquetoast candidate who wasted three months telling poor people, many of whom are full-time, gainfully employed firefighters, to be joyful about the fact that they can’t pay for groceries.
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they’re no better. That’s especially true when it comes to the poor and working class.
people are stupid, that’s just how things are. They don’t want to know the truth or listen to highly targeted and nuanced policies for small business owners til their eyes glaze over. They want to be told their wildest dreams will come true like Pedro in Napoleon Dynamite. Dems have not learned how to deal with that.
You don’t consider it sociopathic to look at poor people tell them: “Have you just tried being happy?” That was Democrats’ entire message for months of the campaign.
I think that the real story is that economy was doing slightly better, and this is what caused everyone to be so pissed. Its slight uptick caused people to stop and say’ “What, that’s it? Where is mine? Everybody should Fuck Off”. When the economy slightly down-ticks, people tend to be more understanding. Humans are generally shitty and short sighted, especially those that voted for Trump.
Well sure, so you get a milqtoast candidate on the one habd and a literal rapist, felon, liar and entitled billionare kiddy fiddler on the other. You k iw who yoi want on charge ? A compentnet administrator reluctant to make decisions becase only an idiot would be assured at the level with so much nuance .
But you know what, lets choose the felon becase they’re “much the same”
The Dems are asshats for sure, the GOP is striaght up fucking Nazis, voters who can’t tell the difference are the real concern. This isnt even lesser evil.
This, as much as I want the entire DNC to carry my coffin at my funeral so that they can let me down one list time, I’d rather have someone who has no idea how to drive behind the wheel than someone who’s actively trying to wreck the car.
I get where you’re coming from, I do, but milquetoast is an optimistic definition.
There are multiple sources claiming that internal polls showed trump winning 400 electoral college votes while Biden was still running. Straight up LYING to donors, constituents, and media. A “competent administrator” would’ve held an honest primary. Not tried to shove this man uncontested down everyone’s throats.
It’s seems incredibly disingenuous to put this all on the voters. At some point you need to admit that the entire democratic party straight up shot themselves in the foot. It also does NOT seem to be a stretch to assume that it was well known in inner circles that he was NOT in his right mind anymore and had NO GOOD REASON to run again at his age.
I agree with you. Trump sucks. A paper bag could’ve defeated Trump. so why the hell didn’t the democrats just walk down to cub foods and grab one, instead of refusing to get off their asses, rummaging in their couch cushions looking for something to throw in the ring?
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they completely screwed this up all on their own.
Well sure, so you get a milqtoast candidate on the one habd and a literal rapist, felon, liar and entitled billionare kiddy fiddler on the other.
You get a milquetoast candidate more receptive to the donor class of rapists, felons, liars, and entitled billionaire kiddy diddlers than her own party base. And then you get the King of the Crooks rallying tens of millions of con artists and pedos and misogynists to his banner.
Why was Harris campaigning with Liz Cheney, Jeff Flake, and Michael Bloomberg? Why was she staunchly aligned with the Israelis and Saudis on foreign policy, in direct defiance to her base? Why did she move backwards on public health care? Why was she shilling crypto on in the campaign trail?
Tens of millions of Americans are working 2-3 jobs at 80-100 hours a week for the privilege of starving and keeping a roach-infested roof over their head.
They are already living in fascism, and Democrats seem even more out of touch because they just ignore it and profit themselves.
What policy did they spout? Tweaks to Obamacare? Means-tested narrowly-defined tax benefits? More fracking? Everyone who isn’t a billionaire is getting squeezed too hard, the order of the day is dramatic change. The democrats needed to promise hitting shit with hammers, and they offered to adjust things with watchmaker’s tools.
I think the problem here is that the democrats got addicted to the lazy politics of fear. It’s always kinda been there, but we got where we are today in '16 when they decided that their best shot at getting HRC her win was promoting the craziest Republican possible. If your opponent is turbo Hitler, then you don’t need to promise anything and therefore don’t need to keep any promises, you just promise to not be turbo Hitler and go back to yucking it up with the lobbyists and your pals from the hedge funds. And Hillary didn’t promise much (inb4 she offered a pretty means-tested half-hearted helping hand to a select few people under special circumstances). I’m now convinced that the only reason Trump lost in '20 was COVID, and democrats misread it as people being willing to embrace their spineless platform of “not that guy”. So, when they of course tried it again in '24, they got egg on their face.
The thing is, you can’t keep people afraid, eventually they burn out on the fear for better or worse. I remember the government tried that post-9/11. Every day for years (and especially when they were trying to sell the Iraq war) the terror threat level was Orange or Red. The news even had a little dooblie-doo in the bottom left corner that showed the threat level of the day. Well, when it’s orange or red for six years and nothing happens, people eventually just stop paying attention. People stopped being afraid of Trump, and with nothing really on offer besides more "not that guy"ism, it’s not a shock they lost.
Of course, the lesson the democrats already seem to be taking from this is that they all need to become republicans, because surely Republicans will finally vote for Democrats if democrats are Republicans. Because, you know, the only voters that matter are Republicans, and they definitely will vote for a different party if given the chance, right?
The problem is the Democratic Party beat the Republicans with their own policies. This is why people say the Dems went right. They literally took all the Republican’s best policy ideas and made them happen.
We all know HRC was an unpalatable candidate. Not just because we live in a heavily misogynist society either, she was a universally unlikable candidate. The right had spent decades making her a lightning rod for everything wrong in the world.
To be joyful about the fact that they can’t pay for groceries.
This… the “The economy’s doing good? News to me!” crowd actually had a point.
I like to think of it like this. If you’ve stopped inflation, but you haven’t brought the wages up or the prices down, you haven’t done anything useful.
If you’ve been stabbed by a serial killer, let’s say it’s Michael Myers or Ghostface, someone who’s basically just a guy with a knife. If you’ve been stabbed by Ghostface and I take him out with a second amendment solution, haul the body away, and pat myself on the back for saving your life… I am guilty of neglectful homicide. Why? Because when in that list of actions did I ever call you an ambulance or dress your knife wound? Oh that’s right I didn’t.
Or an “opportunities economy”… bitch… a lot of people are not entrepreneurs don’t want to be entrepreneurs or are forced into being a fake one by the gig economy. Maybe shore up the base stuff before you start again helping entrepreneurs.
It’s simple.
The Democrats shouldn’t have wasted a year of campaign time running a cognitively-impaired man and then replaced him with a milquetoast candidate who wasted three months telling poor people, many of whom are full-time, gainfully employed firefighters, to be joyful about the fact that they can’t pay for groceries.
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they’re no better. That’s especially true when it comes to the poor and working class.
True but people shouldn’t have voted for a sociopath either. There is more blame there.
people are stupid, that’s just how things are. They don’t want to know the truth or listen to highly targeted and nuanced policies for small business owners til their eyes glaze over. They want to be told their wildest dreams will come true like Pedro in Napoleon Dynamite. Dems have not learned how to deal with that.
You don’t consider it sociopathic to look at poor people tell them: “Have you just tried being happy?” That was Democrats’ entire message for months of the campaign.
i call it completely out of touch: i different, and lesser form of stupid upsetting bullshit
I think that the real story is that economy was doing slightly better, and this is what caused everyone to be so pissed. Its slight uptick caused people to stop and say’ “What, that’s it? Where is mine? Everybody should Fuck Off”. When the economy slightly down-ticks, people tend to be more understanding. Humans are generally shitty and short sighted, especially those that voted for Trump.
Stop pretending dems aren’t also sociopaths. You can prefer them to Trump, but stop gas lighting people about how the dems are actually good.
Well sure, so you get a milqtoast candidate on the one habd and a literal rapist, felon, liar and entitled billionare kiddy fiddler on the other. You k iw who yoi want on charge ? A compentnet administrator reluctant to make decisions becase only an idiot would be assured at the level with so much nuance .
But you know what, lets choose the felon becase they’re “much the same”
The Dems are asshats for sure, the GOP is striaght up fucking Nazis, voters who can’t tell the difference are the real concern. This isnt even lesser evil.
This, as much as I want the entire DNC to carry my coffin at my funeral so that they can let me down one list time, I’d rather have someone who has no idea how to drive behind the wheel than someone who’s actively trying to wreck the car.
I get where you’re coming from, I do, but milquetoast is an optimistic definition.
There are multiple sources claiming that internal polls showed trump winning 400 electoral college votes while Biden was still running. Straight up LYING to donors, constituents, and media. A “competent administrator” would’ve held an honest primary. Not tried to shove this man uncontested down everyone’s throats.
It’s seems incredibly disingenuous to put this all on the voters. At some point you need to admit that the entire democratic party straight up shot themselves in the foot. It also does NOT seem to be a stretch to assume that it was well known in inner circles that he was NOT in his right mind anymore and had NO GOOD REASON to run again at his age.
I agree with you. Trump sucks. A paper bag could’ve defeated Trump. so why the hell didn’t the democrats just walk down to cub foods and grab one, instead of refusing to get off their asses, rummaging in their couch cushions looking for something to throw in the ring?
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they completely screwed this up all on their own.
You get a milquetoast candidate more receptive to the donor class of rapists, felons, liars, and entitled billionaire kiddy diddlers than her own party base. And then you get the King of the Crooks rallying tens of millions of con artists and pedos and misogynists to his banner.
Why was Harris campaigning with Liz Cheney, Jeff Flake, and Michael Bloomberg? Why was she staunchly aligned with the Israelis and Saudis on foreign policy, in direct defiance to her base? Why did she move backwards on public health care? Why was she shilling crypto on in the campaign trail?
None of her voters wanted this shit.
This is what Democrats don’t get.
Tens of millions of Americans are working 2-3 jobs at 80-100 hours a week for the privilege of starving and keeping a roach-infested roof over their head.
They are already living in fascism, and Democrats seem even more out of touch because they just ignore it and profit themselves.
Democrats need to jingle keys in front of voters, not spout policy
What policy did they spout? Tweaks to Obamacare? Means-tested narrowly-defined tax benefits? More fracking? Everyone who isn’t a billionaire is getting squeezed too hard, the order of the day is dramatic change. The democrats needed to promise hitting shit with hammers, and they offered to adjust things with watchmaker’s tools.
I think the problem here is that the democrats got addicted to the lazy politics of fear. It’s always kinda been there, but we got where we are today in '16 when they decided that their best shot at getting HRC her win was promoting the craziest Republican possible. If your opponent is turbo Hitler, then you don’t need to promise anything and therefore don’t need to keep any promises, you just promise to not be turbo Hitler and go back to yucking it up with the lobbyists and your pals from the hedge funds. And Hillary didn’t promise much (inb4 she offered a pretty means-tested half-hearted helping hand to a select few people under special circumstances). I’m now convinced that the only reason Trump lost in '20 was COVID, and democrats misread it as people being willing to embrace their spineless platform of “not that guy”. So, when they of course tried it again in '24, they got egg on their face.
The thing is, you can’t keep people afraid, eventually they burn out on the fear for better or worse. I remember the government tried that post-9/11. Every day for years (and especially when they were trying to sell the Iraq war) the terror threat level was Orange or Red. The news even had a little dooblie-doo in the bottom left corner that showed the threat level of the day. Well, when it’s orange or red for six years and nothing happens, people eventually just stop paying attention. People stopped being afraid of Trump, and with nothing really on offer besides more "not that guy"ism, it’s not a shock they lost.
Of course, the lesson the democrats already seem to be taking from this is that they all need to become republicans, because surely Republicans will finally vote for Democrats if democrats are Republicans. Because, you know, the only voters that matter are Republicans, and they definitely will vote for a different party if given the chance, right?
The problem is the Democratic Party beat the Republicans with their own policies. This is why people say the Dems went right. They literally took all the Republican’s best policy ideas and made them happen.
We all know HRC was an unpalatable candidate. Not just because we live in a heavily misogynist society either, she was a universally unlikable candidate. The right had spent decades making her a lightning rod for everything wrong in the world.
This… the “The economy’s doing good? News to me!” crowd actually had a point.
I like to think of it like this. If you’ve stopped inflation, but you haven’t brought the wages up or the prices down, you haven’t done anything useful.
If you’ve been stabbed by a serial killer, let’s say it’s Michael Myers or Ghostface, someone who’s basically just a guy with a knife. If you’ve been stabbed by Ghostface and I take him out with a second amendment solution, haul the body away, and pat myself on the back for saving your life… I am guilty of neglectful homicide. Why? Because when in that list of actions did I ever call you an ambulance or dress your knife wound? Oh that’s right I didn’t.
Or an “opportunities economy”… bitch… a lot of people are not entrepreneurs don’t want to be entrepreneurs or are forced into being a fake one by the gig economy. Maybe shore up the base stuff before you start again helping entrepreneurs.
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