• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    56
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    23 hours ago

    People are conditioned to their environment. It’s like the far right assholes who hate the system but don’t understand that the real enemy is the rich and instead think we need to attack government. Yes, that’s bad too, but class warfare is the real answer while they suck off Musk for his “epic posts.”

    I’m relieved that some amount of awareness is blooming. We can hope that it continues to develop.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 hour ago

        No, the rich programmed their masses to blame everything on whatever left-wing party leader is in charge. That’s what Fox News and the rest of the Murdoch empire is for.

        They need their 8 hours of hate to blame Emmanuel Goldstein for all of the world’s problems.

      • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        19 hours ago

        Don’t talk about that though you need to keep alienating them at every turn and never make any attempt to be the better person and gently educate people and stand tall on that hill you’re gonna die on so a rich guy can point at your blue hair from their third yacht.

          • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            17 hours ago

            It took 300h therapy to cure control my personality disorder and a significant portion of it was Dialectal Behavior Therapy. It turns out when they say that a common symptom of personality disorders is an abnormal morality they don’t necessarily mean bad or none. It can actually often be too much or more importantly too rigid. So a big part of DBT is actually to just completely let go of right and wrong and do what will work, practically speaking, to allow the most good to happen. Perfect is the enemy of good and a LOT of leftists are gonna die on their hills waiting for backup from that moral high ground that is just not coming. Meanwhile I’m hoping the incels notice how much pussy is lining up for Luigi.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        16 hours ago

        No, I watch police bodycam videos on YT. They’re largely from states like Minnesota, Florida, etc. Largely rural. Largely small towns.

        A Trump-supporting domestic abuser in one of them yesterday was who I had in mind when I commented. They have inaccurate world views, hence why they cling to their dogma. This is due to their news media distorting reality.

    • Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      22 hours ago

      You’re not going to fight for class warfare if you enable a ruling class to exist above us as “government”.

      Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.

      • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Getting rid of any concept of a state is what allows corporations to fill the gap. It’s corporate feudalism. The only thing that can push back against a collective entity is another collective entity.

        • Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          21 hours ago

          No, it allows people to fill in the gap.

          No one wants authoritarians telling us how to live our lives. People are the priority, not consolidating power into the hands of a few individual rulers.

          • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            15 hours ago

            This does not end up how you think it does. Not allowing for unchecked corporate power doesn’t mean consolidation of government power into the hands of a few.

            Our system is broken because we allow corporations to go around the people and buy influence directly from politicians. Not all systems have to do that.

            But Removing the people that corporations are currently buying influence from doesn’t mean they do being bad. It just means they have even fewer obstacles to doing what they want than they do now.

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            11
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            20 hours ago

            You ask for anarchy without realizing that anarchy is what the rich fucks like elon really dream of. A world without governments where their exclusion from any obligations to society and legal responsibility can be institutionalized.

            And then we have true, official neofeudalism.

            • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              20 hours ago

              Muskrat is at best an anarchocapitalist, which isn’t real anarchism because it doesn’t reject hierarchy.

              Really, he’s a what’s best for me fuck everyone else ideology but with white supremacist flavoring. Pick your label for it, but anarchist is not it.

            • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              20 hours ago

              Anarchy is communism and he is arguing like a communist

              You are right about why it doesn’t work, someone will just fill the gap

              • SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                edit-2
                20 hours ago

                Anarchy is not communism.

                Anarchy is a system that doesn’t have an overarching hierarchical governmental system. Anarchy is bottom-up rather than top-down social management.

                Communism can spring from anarchy, but is not a necessary component nor a necessary outcome.

                Libertarians are anarchists, but on the right. Suggest communism to a libertarian and see where it gets you.

      • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        20 hours ago

        Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.

        Fuck yeah a fellow anarchist 👊🏻