• polle@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    Recommending an unsupervised mushroom trip to cure depression to random people is just reckless.

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        2 days ago

        Thats like the more people killed by cows than sharks thing.

        There are more cows and people near cows than sharks and people near them.

        As a “socially” acceptable and legal drug, more people use alcohol than shrooms so of course the incident rate is higher.

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          Are we so pacified that an adult can’t just eat some mushrooms? We can’t even let kids out to play all day or some fictional fuck will snatch them up!

          The only things tripping people need to worry about is the same things we’d normally worry about. Stay inside if it’s your first time. If you’re so scared of life that you can’t fathom taking a great life affirming substance, maybe do therapy first.

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            A friend of mine, which sounded exactly like you. Solo trippin to cure himself, multiple times and that it is the best thing ever. At some point he spammed a group chat with weird nonsense until he mentioned that he is going to die and that we should send an ambulance. They found him laying in front of his flat in the snow tripping like hell, lol. That guy is the perfect example, why people shouldn’t do that (alone). I’m not saying people should not do drugs or that psychedelics cannot help to cure depression. It needs a setting, instructions and someone who has experience, can guide you and is sober.

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      I love that people are dumb enough to downvote common sense.

      Even experienced trippers shouldn’t go it alone if they’re not in a good headspace.

      Even in a good headspace it’s risky (physically and mentally) to go on a trip alone.

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        I’ve only done solo trips. It depends on how you react. I think movies present psychedelics as more “effective” than they are. In my experience, even at relatively heroic doses, I don’t really lose my connection to reality. I get nice visuals, I get some profound feeling thoughts, and spend most of the time just curled up on the couch watching TV.

        The pink elephants/elaborate real looking hallucinations aren’t really a thing I think. It’s more pattern based - things turn into swirls and moving color. You don’t see things that aren’t “there” necessarily, more that things are more dynamic.

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          I usually solo trip as well.

          I’ve never had a bad trip, but I know folks who have.

          I just took some time years ago to come up with a rough plan to deal with bad trips before one became an issue.

          A couple of comedies and my old standbys of Baraka and Samsara for comfort if needed.

          A few different music playlists with different vibes to tweak my headspace in whatever direction I wanna go.

          And a designated safe space that I’ve never needed to use.

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            Ive had quite a few bad trips; but i dont really do high doses mostly in the 2-3.5 g range, and i feel like mine are more sad/depressed over like scary or freaky

            Lowkey i kinda like them now, i think its nice to emotionally get everything out and “start new” in a sense

            I will say, at least for me it is very hard to hold off a bad trip when it starts, insert stereotypical ‘go with the flow’ mantra.even with preparation you could still have one

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            I’ve only ever had a bad trip from THC - like 1000 mg+ of good quality indica, which I don’t react well to in general. Experienced what was specifically the Christian hell.

            The worst I’ve gotten from mushrooms was tummy troubles and some hot flashes. LSA and mescaline were about the same. As long as one has good music, movies (Koyaanisqatsi is amazing if you like Samsara), art… the mind wonders so much that if you just let it the bad trip will fade. Bad trips come from resisting the experience.

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              Bad trips come from resisting the experience.

              This is it right here folks, plain and simple. Even “bad” trips can be good once they’re over, if you take the time to reflect on what made you feel that way then perhaps make a change to your life or your way of thinking. Easier said than done, I know.

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        You sound like you don’t know that you’re talking about. Even at my limits of connection to reality I know not to run into the street. If I’m going to get melted by myself I’m staying inside anyway. And if you’re still sure it’s so risky, then accept that risk and move on. When Jason Vorhees slashes you up because you wanted to get a closer look at a flower you won’t have time to regret your “mistake”