• dx1@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Yes, voting for politicians who commit genocide is supporting genocide. Let’s get that out of the way.

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      13 hours ago

      Nope. Voting for the slightly less evil politician doesn’t mean you support genocide anymore than pulling the lever means you support innocent people being run over by trolleys.

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        12 hours ago

        Nope, voting for (supporting) a politician who commits genocide MEANS YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE. You people stop voting for those politicians, and guess what, THEY DON’T GET INTO OFFICE, AND WE DON’T HAVE GENOCIDES.

        And enough with the trolley problem. Reality’s not a fucking trolley problem. There are millions of individuals with an infinite array of choices in front of them. You frame anything in terms of two immoral choices and you can “justify” taking the least immoral of the two, but guess what, the fucking framing isn’t correct, because there’s allllllllllllll the different paths the trolley can go down, and allllllllllllll the other people also pulling levers, and the SUM of your choices is what determines the outcome, not your individual choice alone.

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          There were exactly two paths the trolley could go down as of November. You can pretend there weren’t, but the only option any individual had other than Harris or Trump was to assassinate one or both, and I’m not interested in getting iced by the SS

          Unless you think there’s some magic number of comments you can make on the internet that will somehow convince enough voters to ditch the two main parties. Of course, you would have to be incredibly naive to believe in that magic number.

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            There were exactly two paths the trolley could go down as of November.

            Objectively false. More than three paths literally on the ballot. Ignoring the pre-November time frame. Ignoring the possibility of write-ins. You are deliberately leaving things out in your framing - you’re lying.

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        What did Hitler do? Spew rhetoric, tour around, and orchestrate/direct resources into genocide. That is precisely what the U.S. president and Congress have done. You may want to pretend the imaginary national line between Netanyahu and Biden somehow means Biden’s hands are clean, but he has funded, armed, rhetorically supported, militarily supported, and blocked nearly every ceasefire effort at the UN Security Council against the genocide. It is a U.S. genocide, and everyone following it is completely aware of that. Why is it that you think State Department officials are resigning, and Aaron Bushnell lit himself on fire? It would be far quicker to name the U.S. politicians who aren’t complicit in the genocide. Between Congress and the presidency, depending on how strict you want to be, that’s between 1 and maybe 30 (Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, etc.)

        Not even addressing that historically you don’t even need to dispel that national boundary. Not even under George W. Bush. Yet alone the genocide of the Native Americans.

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          16 hours ago

          bUt hITLeR!!!

          So…. You can’t name one. Thanks for playing.

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            16 hours ago

            Start with Biden. Blinken. Linda Thomas Greenfield. Her Deputy ambassador…Robert Wood. Matthew Miller. Vedant Patel. Brian Mast. Lindsey Graham. Mitch McConnell. Chuck Schumer. John Fetterman. Marco Rubio. Elise Stefanik. Did you even read my message? Fucking all of them.

            The fact that you respond like that is fucked. Bad faith commenter, missing soul, we’re done.

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              16 hours ago

              Try again.

              And you’re done because you have nothing. Listen dude… You swung, you missed. You’re not exempt from being called out, or being made to own your shit.

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                  15 hours ago

                  So…. You’re not… done?

                  For the record, NONE of them committed genocide. None of them have the authority to do so. And none of them were even brought on charges for doing so.

                  Complicit? Perhaps. But not a single one of the people you mentioned committed the act at all.

                  What you’re doing here is angrily spreading blatant misinformation.