• emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Legitimately what’s stopping them from accepting the ban and just releasing tiktok 2 with another name. Everyone will hear about the endorsed tiktok replacement and flock to their instead of the other weird Chinese app people are moving to in protest. Literally unless America bans China operating in the States their just going to whack a mole this until America stops singling it out.

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      14 hours ago

      The “ban” is. i wish people would read what the actual bill says.

      The bill stipulates that any entity in the control of a foreign adversary with a certain user threshold that collects specific data and uses algorithms to track users would be banned. This is why the red note “protest” is also not going to work. They’ll just ban rednote as well. The ban is about more than just tik tok.

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        13 hours ago

        This is not sustainable at all and is going to lead to a chain of banning app after platform after app as users move to the next thing and the government struggles to keep up with regulation.

        I can’t say I’m surprised by American government clown show tactics at this point but this is, most definitely, clown show tactics.

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          5 hours ago

          How do you figure it’s not sustainable? The government doesn’t have to do anything particularly to do it. It doesn’t require that Congress decide to/vote on the ban, will already be written into law, and it requires the users to have somewhere to move to that’s feasibly bad and able to sustain them.

          We’re also already seeing Americans run afoul of rednote’s TOS and content policies. It will absolutely be the same on the next platform.

          The thing you have to realize is that the bill is written in such a way that it doesn’t require any further regulation. That’s the main problem with this idea that the government won’t be able to keep up with regulating. If you don’t think the government’s OPSEC community has been vetting Chinese and Russian social media platforms for quite awhile now, you’re living in a dream world. The thing is they had to figure out a way to make it so they could ban or otherwise interfere in these apps because they’re corps. Now that they have figured that out the cat is out of the bag.

          I will say that the suggestion that people use Loops instead is probably not going to work specifically because it’s too many users too fast.

          The US government has been on a ban or otherwise regulate Chinese products kick for a few years now and it only takes someone who’s been paying attention to note the number of sanctions, bans of products and services, etc.

          The US has levied 117 sanctions since 2020.

          They have effectively banned Chinese EV’s.

          The ban of Huawei, and ZTE, and potential ban of Chinese made Routers and networking equipment.

          A better protest would be to stay on the Tik Tok platform with a VPN or other method. But moving to rednote is a lot like throwing a tantrum in your living room where nobody can see it. It detrimentally affects tik tok because they’re losing users/engagement as well.

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            43 minutes ago

            Someone must still be responsible for monitoring all this, pulling the trigger on platforms that fit the criteria, and then actually enforcing that trigger pull, though. They will be, by definition, one step behind the public at all times, following them from platform to platform to tell them “you can’t be here anymore”.

            People want X (variable, not ex-twitter), the government doesn’t want people to have X, so the government bans X. The people still have X. This fits into the same nutshell that the War on Drugs does and the drugs are winning that one pretty resoundingly, and you have to actually go out in public and buy those. I don’t see a reason why the War on Social Media is going to go differently especially when anyone can set up a VPN from the comfort and privacy of their living room.