• cybermass@lemmy.ca
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      21 hours ago

      As a Canadian, I honestly believe your election was rigged and has been since 2000.

      Corporations own your country, it’s very obvious. The only way you can influence your government at this point is collective action which will never happen cause you have iPhones to use to get your anger out.

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      In swing states, yes. But for the majority of americans not in a swing state, their gripes are at least somewhat valid thanks to gerrymandering.

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        Gerrymandering has been a huge problem for a while, what makes you think this time it played a pivotal role in Trump’s victory? If that was the case, he would have won the electoral vote but not the popular vote, but he won the popular vote, first Rep pres to do so in 20 years apparently. It helped secure past Rep presidencies, but doesn’t to have done so this time around.

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          Gerrymandering only impacts the House of Representatives and no impact on the president or any other government positions.

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        Lack of resistance is why Trump won. Democrats are part of that, but the blame hardly lies on them alone.

        Votes do matter, they’re just not enough on their own.

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          It’s hard to claim lack of resistance when the entire party was shifting to the hard right trying to attract that hard right vote. They cozied up to war criminals, cops zionists and the right wing while blowing right-wing dog whistles there was no resistance

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            They were still better on some policies. There would have been space to pressure them in the next four years, build support for a progressive party in local and state elections where they thought they were safe and so on. I can’t imagine any timeline where a Trump victory won’t be objectively worse on many issues. Like I said, the Dems bending over is part of that lack of resistance, but the unwillingness of many voters to vote against Trump, if nothing else, is also a factor.

            How are you consciously standing by idly while watching an out-and-open authoritarian take the lead? How are you seeing Musk of all people crawl up his butt and figure “yeah, I’d rather let him take the reigns”?

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        Harris: 75,012,178 votes
        Trump: 77,302,416 votes
        Source

        3 million people voted third party, nearly 90 million people didn’t vote at all- and you blame democrats….
        Source

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          Yes. Democrats alienating the people whose votes they need to win is absolutely a democrat problem.

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            You’re not owed your ass kissed for a vote. That’s not how it works. A candidate has to try to appeal to more than single issue voters. Historicity this has been proven true.

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              No one is asking for their asses to be kissed, we’re asking for a campaign that appeals to enough voters in the party’s own base as opposed to courting voters in the other party’s base.

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                And I said a candidate needs to appeal to a wider audience than to court single issue voters. If those single issue voters understood this, maybe things would have gone differently.

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                  Yes, maybe things would have gone differently if they had done anything to appeal to people with a proven track record of voting blue (including opposing genocide in Gaza, which most Democrat voters oppose) rather than trying to appeal to imaginary “moderate Republicans”. I guess we’ll never know!

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          If it wasn’t for Hillary’s pied Piper strategy, Trump never would have been elevated with billions of dollars in free media to become president. If it wasn’t for Kamala Harris embracing right-wing politics and every policy of bidens that the public opposed, we wouldn’t have Trump right now. Democrats are toxic poison and are their own worst enemy

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            Riiiiight. It’s always something other than what the numbers show.

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              The numbers show that the dem’s embrace of right-wing policies (and genocide) were wildly unpopular, the thing we have been screaming for 4 years.