Edit: Jesus fuck Lemmy, take a chill pill. It’s making fun of the outrage, I didn’t mean for it cause more of it.

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    I remember the speeches from Clinton and Obama. They were using the gesture to express a multitude of people. Meaning they were swinging their arms in a gesture to represent all people’s in the audience. These pictures are just a midway on that. If you watched the speeches, Obama was noted for trying to make all people’s represented and included. Clinton followed suit by doing the same thing. Elon Musk totally threw a nazi salute

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    12 hours ago

    Exactly! BOTH Democrats and Republicans grab their Hearts and then Nazi Salute ALL THE TIME!

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    This is a stupid argument. In all of these cases including Elon the video gives the added context to prove none of them were doing the Nazi salute. Taking a still image and omitting all context should never be taken seriously.

    If you actually believe these people are doing the Nazi salute you are a moron. If you actually believe that Elon gave the Nazi salute you are also an idiot.

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      9 hours ago

      even Germany is calling it a Nazi salute. reporting you for misinformation. we have full video of him doing the Nazi salute, there’s no way to deny it.

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        9 hours ago

        Really the entirety of Germany? The land and air as well? All of them already gathered together and agreed that was a Nazi salute?

        I think what you mean is the chronically online far left Germans who call anyone they disagree with Nazis are calling Elon a Nazi for doing a “Nazi salute”.

        Reporting me for “misinformation” to who? The rest of you crazy fucks who are so comically detached from reality that you are collectively frothing at the mouth to call that man a Nazi? I’m sure they all already agree with you. Its kinda part of the deal with that hivemind.

        Meanwhile the rest of us over here in reality see a sad pathetic man who is diagnosed autistic (and probably more) who desperately wants to be adored by everyone. This is the same guy that awkwardly jumped for joy behind Trump a few months back. Nobody actually does that except for like cartoons, but again the man is not a normal person.

        With all of that said it is very clear from his words and other actions during that speech that he was literally trying to throw his heart out to the people in the crowd. Both the people in front of the podium and behind it.

        If you want to get semantic about the details of the actual Nazi salute you need to use a pointed hand with all five fingers pointing forward. He had his palm outwards with a gap to his thumb both times he threw his heart out.

        It’s funny to me how considerate the left claims to be about people with mental health issues or disorders until it’s someone they don’t like. And then it’s just “all made up” or “that’s not how it really works”.

        Just gonna add this to the growing pile of mask off behavior from y’all. It’s legitimately disgusting what I’m seeing in response to this whole situation.

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            6 hours ago

            Oh no! My only weakness is when they whip out an acronym whenever someone calls them out on their delusional behavior.

            You guys can keep calling me a Nazi all you want. It will never make it true.

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        So why did you delete your comment? Idk if it’s bugged out or if this is just how Lemmy works but I can still see what you said.

        I just did it at work and what do you know my boss isn’t a fucking nut job like you lot. He laughed and said “Yeah Elon really is an awkward guy”.

        For the record I live in a deep blue state and work in a very left leaning place. Nobody in this office likes Elon. There’s not a single Tesla in the parking lot and I live somewhere that has more Tesla’s than most places.

        You guys are not ok in the head. It absolutely was not a Nazi salute. He said as much in that very speech and he has repeatedly confirmed it afterwards.

        The ADL who are currently tracking the proud boys that Trump just set free also stated that what Elon did was not a Nazi salute. You guys are just so fantastically mind poisoned that you ACTUALLY believe that the richest man in America just went on live television and did the Nazi salute during a presidential inauguration and people cheered for it.

        Everyone that believes that was actually a Nazi salute needs to get off the internet and go outside to touch some fucking grass. It is insane seeing the internet collectively lose their minds over that when there are PLETNY of other things Trump did right away that are far more concerning.

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          “The ADL unjustly attacks the majority of the West, despite the majority of the West supporting the Jewish people and Israel. This is because they cannot, by their own tenets, criticize the minority groups who are their primary threat,”

          • Elon Musk, 2023.
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            Wouldn’t this make my point even more? The ADL is saying that it’s not a Nazi salute even after Elon went after them like that a few years ago.

            Like there are so many valid reasons to shit all over Elon, but y’all are latched into this one like it owes you fuckin money. You can keep screaming that he and anyone that defends that speech are all Nazis but it will never make it true.

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              You brought up the ADL as if they were some kind of authority here. Now you’re agreeing with Elon about them being unjust attackers.

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                Y’all were all about the ADL for the last 10+ years and now that they said something you don’t agree with you’re trying to say they aren’t an entity to listen to. Which one is it? Is the ADL correct about all the things they went after the right for over the last decade plus or have they always been a sham?

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                  Who is Y’all?

                  The political left and right have had their issues with the ADL in the past, so I’m not really sure what it is you’re trying to say here.

                  Should we go with the ADL when they say Elon didn’t Nazi salute, or should we not listen to them because Elon doesn’t think they criticize who they should?

                  The “which is it” question is yours alone to make as you were the first one that brought them up.

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      11 hours ago

      I don’t actually believe any of them were doing a Nazi salute. It’s just poking fun at the outrage machine

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        Meanwhile the rest of us over here in reality see a sad pathetic man who is diagnosed autistic (and probably more) who desperately wants to be adored by everyone. This is the same guy that awkwardly jumped for joy behind Trump a few months back. Nobody actually does that except for like cartoons, but again the man is not a normal person

        amen. I am hoping Elon get’s tired quickly and finds a new hobby. I do not think he did a Nazi salute. If the ADL changes their opinion then my opinion may change as well. Elon is just a goof ball and needs to step aside.

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          I think it’s more likely that he and Trump butt heads at some point and then he gets mad and moves to Africa or something. I think things are already starting to slip with Elon. That stupid gamer shit is so unbelievably stupid for someone in his position to even care about.

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            6 hours ago

            I think they are already bumping heads. I appreciate what Elon has done to better EV but I don’t need him trying to run the government.

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              Yeah for real. If he had just kept making overpriced unreliable EVs and sending rockets to space people would probably still view him mostly favorably. But now he’s pissed off most people to varying degrees.

              My biggest gripe with him is he calls himself a free speech absolutionist and he is most certainly not a fucking free speech absolutionist. Dude bought twitter and immediately started using it to silence people he didn’t like and elevate people he liked. Fuckin tool.

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                I hate the term for free speech. While I strongly believe in free speech. Nothing is absolute nor should it be.

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                  You can’t really pick and choose with free speech. It’s sorta all or nothing with these things. If you say “well let’s make a few rules about these words”. Who decides which words? Do they ever get updated? Does each banned word or phrase get voted for if it stays banned or not? Is this a federal crime or a state issue? What’s the punishment?

                  I think the current system of all things are legally fair game, but socially some things shouldn’t be said or used in certain ways is perfectly fine. It sorta self updates and corrects with time, but it leaves open the option to say anything if need be.

                  I understand people not liking certain language, but often times they don’t see the issue with legally banning things they don’t like. They aren’t thinking ahead to the possibility where there are things they would like to say and now cannot.

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        11 hours ago

        I didn’t think you did, but I don’t like it when either side pulls this shit. Granted one side has a harder time with context and reality than the other… Generally speaking.