• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
    434·
    4 days ago

    This pardon seems justified to me. Nobody deserves “double life imprisonment plus 40 years, without the possibility of parole”, as far as I’m concerned. Yes, literally nobody. And here it’s even worse than that: the sentence was explicitly designed to be exemplary, i.e., to frighten others. That is just retribution, vengeance, posing as justice. America should be better than that.

    I’m aware that this guy probably ordered two murders. The probably is important.

        • mel@jlai.lu
          4·
          3 days ago

          Happend in France a months ago. When there were riots after a cop killed a boy in the poor suburbs, one of our dear ministers (/s) asked for exemplary sentences and some of them took months of prison for packs of rice or energy cans…

    • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
      22·
      4 days ago

      The court has no evidence that he ordered murders and dismissed the charges in such a way that they can never be filed again.

      Right after Ross’s arrest, prosecutors in the state of Maryland filed a separate indictment that contained the only allegation of murder-for-hire ever filed against Ross. The indictment referenced an alleged hit on Curtis Green, a Silk Road administrator (more on Curtis Green below). For nearly five years, that indictment was left untouched, unprosecuted. Eventually, in July 2018, the District of Maryland dismissed it with prejudice, meaning it can never be re-filed or used against Ross again.[3][4]

      The PDF referenced in 3: https://freeross.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Doc_14_Dismissal_Indictment_7-26-2018.pdf

      Quoted site: https://freeross.org/false-allegations/

      • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
        81·
        4 days ago

        The court has no evidence

        Not beyond reasonable doubt, no. But there was a preponderance of evidence, according to the court. I’m sure you already know this.

        In criminal law you need overwhelming proof. So I agree with you, it’s absolutely correct that he was not found guilty of this.

          • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
            11·
            1 day ago

            Not at all. Of course, I’m not American so my starting point is not that people are locked up for years for the tiniest offense

            • Vardøgor
              1·
              19 hours ago

              congrats, that’s not my starting point either, (or most Americans’…) thanks. just don’t exactly find leading the Holocaust as “the tiniest offense”

              • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
                1·
                19 hours ago

                Did you know that the Norwegian shooter (who killed a very large number of unarmed young people with an automatic weapon in 2011) is already 2/3 of the way thru his sentence?

                This was my point. Americans didn’t understand this and still don’t. Cultures have different conceptions of what purpose is served by punishment.

                • Vardøgor
                  1·
                  19 hours ago

                  i am indeed aware other cultures exist. but i have a feeling most Norwegians still would want Hitler with more than 20 years. he affected the world and i’m sure you know that your view there is a little unorthodox.

                  i just looked up the Norwegian shooter because no i didn’t know about that, looks like 21 years is just the maximum civilian sentence in general. it can be extended, and he’s been denied parole multiple times including last year, and kept in solitary confinement… seems likely to be extended. The military penal code however, does indeed have life imprisonment, which i’m pretty sure is there for people like Hitler.

  • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    162·
    4 days ago

    At least I can agree with Donnie on 1 thing. People choose to do drugs and kill themselves. Just let them do it. It’s not like they would harm the US healthcare system.