I didn’t mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. “Everything’s lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time”) type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I’ve heard from women irl a lot.

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    You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.

    You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.

    Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.

    Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.

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      You to the woman taking a cab home after a night at the club: “Ma’am, don’t you know you’re 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentional poisoning than being murdered? Why don’t you walk home alone instead of taking the cab?”

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        Unintentional deaths https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

        Homicide statistics https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/

        I dont understand why people are so offended by my comment. Why blame a whole demographic by something committed by 0.02% of them? Why are so people so intent on such blame? It accomplishes less than nothing, it just antagonizes the group you are attempting to reach.

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          Personally I wasn’t offended at all. There’s just so many people throwing numbers around and I’d like to know where they get them from before I make my own judgement if spread that info elsewhere.

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          Because it happens enough to be a problem. Mexicans are also more likely to die from any of those things than from cartel violence so I guess cartels are not a problem? I’m gonna assume you suck at statistics, because the alternative is that you’re sexist.

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            Wait so how much crime is the limit for it to be ok to use to fearmonger against an entire demographic? If men are let’s say 13% of the population and commit let’s say 52% of all crimes, is that enough in your estimation to say men are dangerous or a problem or whatever?

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                Oh so you can see how it’s racist when applied to race but still think it’s ok when just applied to “men?” Why do you think you’re better than the racists I’m equating you to? You’re not, you’re the same.

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                    Men violence towards women is a result of systemic oppression. Stop trying to make social comentary when you understand jackshit about society.

                    You are not the victim, you’re just playing one to justify your sexism, misogynistic prick.

                    Sure pal, whatever you need to do to justify to yourself your generalizing based on demographics and othering people based on a small subset of a group’s actions. You’re definitely better than the other people that do that to different groups.

                    *Jerk off hand motion and heavy eye roll.*

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          2022: Deaths by Accidents (unintentional injuries): 227,039 source

          Deaths by murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 21,781 source

          While I didn’t find 2022 numbers for the male to female ratio, in 2023 it was 13,789 to 3,849… source

          If you’re uninformed maybe hold back with accusations.

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            Sure, men are getting killed. But they are not getting killed because of their gender, while women on the other hand are often killed exactly because they are women.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide

            So, a woman going out alone in the dark is always at risk of being raped, killed or violated in other ways.

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          Well I imagine that men get killed more in general. The dude might have a point there. It’s just speculation with no fact the way he wrote it.

          But if he is right it would make more sense to get some stats on how many men vs women get attacked, stalked, followed, cat called, etc going about their business at night. My imagination is that those numbers are very different and that they - together with the fact that most women are way weaker than most men - would have a reason to be more afraid.

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            “more men get murdered” isn’t relevant though. Hypothetically, if predominantly men murder lots of men and women equally, a woman would be right to be worried about getting murdered by a man.

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      Fear of zombies could be at an all time high but that doesn’t mean we should implement policies to deal with the risk of zombie invasion.

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      I’ve been told my whole life, by men, that I can’t go out at night alone, because men, but if I say it it’s forbidden, because woman. Explain.

      Edit: Downvoters cannot explain lmao

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      “She just got raped, beaten and robbed, that totally isn’t a murder! Women are safer than men!” sheesh, talk about not making a point…