Tbf this makes it easier to radicalize liberals since they can’t fall on the “the FBI is different now because they believe in principles” excuse, which, I mean, that’s what this stupid performative shit was designed for.
We say this as if most here weren’t berniecrats in '16 and the majority was still electorialist up until he got fucked in the primaries in '20. Tons of users have posted about how they’ve become more radicalises after X event or year or whatever.
Yeah we shouldn’t trust liberals, but pretending like Trump isn’t creating circumstances for radicalisation is, at best, silly.
This is a fair point. I should try to be less pessimistic. The majority will return to brunch, but many will also hopefully reevaluate their politics, like many posters here did.
I like to look at the summer riots of 2020. Sure they got coopted and memoryholed, but it’s not like people weren’t out in the streets actually doing actual stuff, and since then the general vibe has been much.more antagonistic. Since then we’ve also had more unionisation efforts. I really think Biden was a more competent ghoul than many here give him credit for. He came in right as things were about to pop off.
A lot of people got good experience with organising and other stuff, and that hasn’t been forgotten.
Bidens 2020 campaign was a masterful
recuperation of the energy in the streets. And I’m honestly still mad at it, and mad at the liberals who decided that things were fine now.
If you sort by controversial you can find hexbear strugglesessions about Biden being a harm reduction candidate. I also made a post gathering a bunch of those kind of discussions a while ago. Its one of my highest voted posts, if you look at my profile (just telling you this for if you’re curious and wanna look about).
I remember some Biden struggles, but people were so upset about Bernie and interested in the protests that I never thought that was really a serious position. But I generally avoid the struggle threads so idk.
I do remember the podcasts around that time where everyone had to hash out the Correct Position™ on voting for Biden lol.
Agreed. For me 2016 lit the flame, and 2020 poured on the gasoline.
Watch the federal space. Now that Elon is X-ifying their liberal ‘we love diversity and support the veterans’ playground, I think many who were disillusioned under Biden will now have to contend with the thought that maybe it’s not the party but the system.
This is the issue of the liberal conscious. They don’t see that its the structures of these institutions are what produce the “bad ones” and they think all that’s needed is to put the “good ones” in charge
Tbf this makes it easier to radicalize liberals since they can’t fall on the “the FBI is different now because they believe in principles” excuse, which, I mean, that’s what this stupid performative shit was designed for.
They’ll be back on that beat the second there is a blue man who puts up the nice words again
We say this as if most here weren’t berniecrats in '16 and the majority was still electorialist up until he got fucked in the primaries in '20. Tons of users have posted about how they’ve become more radicalises after X event or year or whatever.
Yeah we shouldn’t trust liberals, but pretending like Trump isn’t creating circumstances for radicalisation is, at best, silly.
This is a fair point. I should try to be less pessimistic. The majority will return to brunch, but many will also hopefully reevaluate their politics, like many posters here did.
I like to look at the summer riots of 2020. Sure they got coopted and memoryholed, but it’s not like people weren’t out in the streets actually doing actual stuff, and since then the general vibe has been much.more antagonistic. Since then we’ve also had more unionisation efforts. I really think Biden was a more competent ghoul than many here give him credit for. He came in right as things were about to pop off.
A lot of people got good experience with organising and other stuff, and that hasn’t been forgotten.
Bidens 2020 campaign was a masterful recuperation of the energy in the streets. And I’m honestly still mad at it, and mad at the liberals who decided that things were fine now.
If you sort by controversial you can find hexbear strugglesessions about Biden being a harm reduction candidate. I also made a post gathering a bunch of those kind of discussions a while ago. Its one of my highest voted posts, if you look at my profile (just telling you this for if you’re curious and wanna look about).
I remember some Biden struggles, but people were so upset about Bernie and interested in the protests that I never thought that was really a serious position. But I generally avoid the struggle threads so idk.
I do remember the podcasts around that time where everyone had to hash out the Correct Position™ on voting for Biden lol.
I joined right after Biden had already won but I remember seeing the last embers of that struggle session when I got here
I know but it’s hard, maybe I need to
and try taking a break from being pissed off at liberals
Being pissed off at liberals is what this place is all about, but we could all do with some grass
Agreed. For me 2016 lit the flame, and 2020 poured on the gasoline.
Watch the federal space. Now that Elon is X-ifying their liberal ‘we love diversity and support the veterans’ playground, I think many who were disillusioned under Biden will now have to contend with the thought that maybe it’s not the party but the system.
right, there’s always “one of the good ones”
This is the issue of the liberal conscious. They don’t see that its the structures of these institutions are what produce the “bad ones” and they think all that’s needed is to put the “good ones” in charge