Imagine if we gave hoarders the same status we give wealthy people.
Like you’re invited over for dinner.
You get to the door and ring the bell. They yell, “come in.” You push the door open against 10000 stacked news papers pushing back at you. You’re instantly hit with the smell of animal feces and urine. You unironically say, “wow, so decadent.” You climb over a pile of furniture and to get to a small clearing in with a couch and a coffee table covered in clutter. You tell your host, “So much stuff, I’m so jealous, you truly possess all the worlds material goods.” They heat up some discount canned ravioli on a hot plate because the only place in the entire house you can habitate is that small clearing with the couch.
After you finish your fine dining experience you leave and you realize you never once saw any animals.
Hoarding is a disease. Doesn’t matter if it’s useless garbage or the idea of a pile of money you’ll never use.
It hurts them. They have to isolate more. Deny certain family members. Be deceptive and cagey. Wealth is a diminishing returns thing. You don’t just become more and more happier with the amount of money you have.
I always liked the analogy with monkeys in the zoo. Imagine there are 10 monkeys in a cage. Every day you drop in 20 oranges. After a while you realise that one monkey is sitting on a pile of oranges, hoarding them. He can’t even eat all the oranges, while some monkeys go hungry. No one would think: “man that must be one smart monkey.” You would think something is seriously wrong with that guy.
Fact? This was a wildly popular television series. If you’re telling me people’s beliefs aren’t reflected in the media they consume in don’t know where to start because I don’t think we live on the same planet.
it’s that how you imagine millionaires with money? Like full house stacked with dirty used paper money? :DDDDDD it’s digital numbers in bank account these days. Difference between old stacked newspapers and numbers in the bank is quite astronomical. And if he will never be able to use it, so his children grandchildren and generations to come will use it and will have EZ life without problems which poverty brings.
Elon Musk could lose 99.99% of his money and still have more money than 99% of Americans.
He’s done it, he’s won capitalism. He can stop and never worry about money, his children would never need to worry about money, and his grandchildren would never need to worry about money. And yet he keeps obsessively hoarding more money that at this point he has literally no use for.
Ohh! English is your second language! That makes sense. I really appreciate you engaging with this conversation. Since there might be some cultural or language differences, I’d love to explain a little about analogies and how they’re used here.
An analogy is a way to compare two things that seem different but share something important in common. In this case, the comparison is between hoarding objects (like newspapers or furniture) and hoarding wealth. While those things aren’t the same physically, the analogy helps highlight how both forms of accumulation can become excessive and, in some cases, harmful.
The idea is that society often judges hoarding physical objects harshly, while accumulating wealth beyond what someone could ever use is seen as admirable. The analogy is used to ask: Why do we treat these two behaviors so differently when they can have similar effects?
I hope that helps explain it a bit! If anything is unclear, feel free to ask or tell me what your native language is and be happy to translate an explanation.
Imagine if we gave hoarders the same status we give wealthy people.
Like you’re invited over for dinner.
You get to the door and ring the bell. They yell, “come in.” You push the door open against 10000 stacked news papers pushing back at you. You’re instantly hit with the smell of animal feces and urine. You unironically say, “wow, so decadent.” You climb over a pile of furniture and to get to a small clearing in with a couch and a coffee table covered in clutter. You tell your host, “So much stuff, I’m so jealous, you truly possess all the worlds material goods.” They heat up some discount canned ravioli on a hot plate because the only place in the entire house you can habitate is that small clearing with the couch.
After you finish your fine dining experience you leave and you realize you never once saw any animals.
Hoarding is a disease. Doesn’t matter if it’s useless garbage or the idea of a pile of money you’ll never use.
Hoarding hurts you. Amassing most of the wealth in the world hurts everyone except the wealthiest people.
It hurts them. They have to isolate more. Deny certain family members. Be deceptive and cagey. Wealth is a diminishing returns thing. You don’t just become more and more happier with the amount of money you have.
I always liked the analogy with monkeys in the zoo. Imagine there are 10 monkeys in a cage. Every day you drop in 20 oranges. After a while you realise that one monkey is sitting on a pile of oranges, hoarding them. He can’t even eat all the oranges, while some monkeys go hungry. No one would think: “man that must be one smart monkey.” You would think something is seriously wrong with that guy.
That’s an unfair representation.
Money isn’t simply given to Elon every day…
Other people work hard for his money!
Yeah, all of the United States taxpayers work very hard to give him money
…after a couple weeks there’s a dead monkey and fermented oranges though. We could learn from monkeys
Yeah that was kinda my thought. I’m pretty sure the other monkeys would beat the ever living F*** out of the hoarder-monkey.
Even if he was the biggest, baddest monkey there a bunch of them would be smart enough to band together and reclaim food
Wtf is this. People dont find billionaires decadent. We know they’re assholes.
You might know they are assholes. At least 50% of the voting public doesn’t. In fact, they think they are very smart.
I’ve been rewatching the Gilmore girls and I can tell you, there is nothing abnormal about people lionizing the extremely wealthy.
If you think Hollywood is fact, you are stupid
Fact? This was a wildly popular television series. If you’re telling me people’s beliefs aren’t reflected in the media they consume in don’t know where to start because I don’t think we live on the same planet.
Key word is voting. Most people dont vote because they dont live in a democracy.
But most people know they’re assholes.
No, most people don’t.
You’re completely out of touch with people if you actually think that.
it’s that how you imagine millionaires with money? Like full house stacked with dirty used paper money? :DDDDDD it’s digital numbers in bank account these days. Difference between old stacked newspapers and numbers in the bank is quite astronomical. And if he will never be able to use it, so his children grandchildren and generations to come will use it and will have EZ life without problems which poverty brings.
Elon Musk could lose 99.99% of his money and still have more money than 99% of Americans.
He’s done it, he’s won capitalism. He can stop and never worry about money, his children would never need to worry about money, and his grandchildren would never need to worry about money. And yet he keeps obsessively hoarding more money that at this point he has literally no use for.
It’s a disease.
He is hoarding so he could buy OpenAi and make it free
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I don’t think you know how to read, bro.
English is my second language and I am from second world country. Maybe that explains things. Apologies sir
Ohh! English is your second language! That makes sense. I really appreciate you engaging with this conversation. Since there might be some cultural or language differences, I’d love to explain a little about analogies and how they’re used here.
An analogy is a way to compare two things that seem different but share something important in common. In this case, the comparison is between hoarding objects (like newspapers or furniture) and hoarding wealth. While those things aren’t the same physically, the analogy helps highlight how both forms of accumulation can become excessive and, in some cases, harmful.
The idea is that society often judges hoarding physical objects harshly, while accumulating wealth beyond what someone could ever use is seen as admirable. The analogy is used to ask: Why do we treat these two behaviors so differently when they can have similar effects?
I hope that helps explain it a bit! If anything is unclear, feel free to ask or tell me what your native language is and be happy to translate an explanation.
“Hey Google, what is a metaphor”