So after yesterday’s strike I made the mistake to engage with liberals about said strike and I have come to the conclusion that I might even hate them more than far right people.
With far right people at least you know what they stand for. They hate minorities, they hate socialism and they are outright saying it. It goes against everything I stand for but at least they are honest about it and in a weird way I respect their honesty.
Liberals, though, are just snakes. They act all concerned about everyone’s welfare but at the same time budget cut the ever living shit out of healthcare, education, welfare, public transport, etc. And they now have found a new standard response: ‘but what about defense???’ It’s like they are drones without independent thought and their new update made them all defense experts. And the smugness they portray when making these points is just insufferable to the point I want to punch their teeth out.
End of rant.
It’s because these people fetishize liberal democracy as the pinnacle of political systems. This what the infamous “end of history” from Fukuyama is all about. The idealization of the system leads them to rationalize its contradictions rather than honestly confronting them.
Libs will claim to care about human rights and dignity, but they always ignore structural issues like wealth concentration. Their cognitive dissonance stems from a fear that the mere acknowledgement of the flaws delegitimizes the entire system. As Wendy Brown put it, liberal democracy’s moral claims often mask its complicity in perpetuating neoliberal exploitation. When push comes to shove, they will always side with capitalist imperatives.
You are not alone in feeling this way. This is why I don’t believe in liberals. They are all either crypto-fascists or ignorant comrades because no honest and informed person can look at liberalism and say “this isn’t vague platitudes and self contradictions.”
They are all either crypto-fascists or ignorant comrades
I think it’s important to keep this bit in mind. As insufferable as they can be, they’ve been fed a steady diet of anticommunism since infancy, and may have the right values but the wrong information. Of course others are just crypto-fascists, and that sucks, but if you can find the ignorant comrades, and even just like, plant a seed of doubt in the western narrative, that’s a win.
Don’t intimidate our hexbear refugees 😞
But yeah i agree, “left” libs are like the disguised big bad wolf from the fables. They will sweet talk, convince you they’re your friends but when time comes they reveal their true side. Contrasted with the “right” libs who are straight up wolves trying to eat you.
Don’t intimidate our hexbear refugees 😞
I promise that dissing libs will not intimidate Hexbearians.
but hexbearers are libs
All Hexbears are libs except the one true leftist who uses the site.
All except for one (the girl reading this)
Like what is the point? They are not rich. They will never be rich. And their leaders slash their retirement funds to shreds, make their healthcare unaffordable. And yet they keep going after them like sheep. ‘We absolutely need to buy new tanks man otherwise PUUUUUTIN!!! Well we actually spend too much on healthcare so we need to cut back a little, it will be tough but necessary. Billions in tax cuts to rich people? Billions in paid dividends? Never heard of it.’
I despise liberals for their racism more then anything. I know where I stand with a Trump Supporter or your average European Nazi. They hate Muslims and make it known. They don’t pester about us hating them back, they get that it’s a mutual understanding.
But liberals… they will aay the most fascist shit to you either through dogwhistles or with the mask off, yet get infuriatingly whiney about being confronted. They will support the same shit as the far right or at least refuse to address a core concern which essentially does the same thing, but if I call them bigots they become insufferable.
The smug self importance is significantly more insulting then the far right’s staunch anti-intellucrualism. The person who believes reading a book will turn him gay isn’t exactly boasting about his intellectual superiority. The college educated man-child whose never critically engaged with a piece of political theory beyond an ideologues biography, somehow believes himself to be a the resurrection of Socrates, and that delusion is unacceptably grating.
Similarly liberals will pretend to give a shit about whatever minority the western news is telling them is being oppressed by a communist country while voting in politicans that campaign on ethnic cleansing, drug war, genocide rhetoric and actions.
Its all just plastic.
Muslims are evil when the west bombs them but man, you must support Muslims so much that you get upset when China opens vocational schools in Muslim-majority areas.
One of the things I hate about liberals is how they tone police people. The moment people who show genuine concern for everyone and are actually engaged in the analysis of issues affecting people worldwide is the moment they start condescendingly talk down to them.
They act like you pushing back against their arrogant self-importance and smugness is you being disrespectful. They’re never interested in hearing what you have to say. To them, calling out their genocidal racism, chauvinist behavior, hypocrisy, tokenism, etc. is you “not being open-minded”. Excuse me? Whenever I list a number of reasons for liberals being indistinguishable from fascists, you start acting like a fascist. You get all excited about how Trump is going to do mass deportations as if you’ve never done the same thing. You get upset about how I’m not platforming your fascist apologism. It’s pretty rich of you to accuse me of “not being open-minded” when you literally dismiss all evidence of NATO funding Nazis in Ukraine as “Russian Propaganda”.
These people love to infantilize entire peoples and cultures. They love generalizing entire populations because of their countries’ political structures, instead of thinking about the material conditions of a specific country they obsess over.
Liberals are truly some of the most insufferable people. The fact that I’m the only communist in my mostly reactionary family, some of whom are liberals, is mentally exhausting.
What irks me is how they use the keywords ‘we.’ The billionaires do not include you in their decisions. God it grinds my brain
The white race in general in the British diaspora and Western European empires benefited so much from colonial free riding, fake school death camps that secretly continued after 1997, and free stolen stuff from the fake cultural assimilation of Indigenous children to the level that some will not oppose the free-riding system regardless of the circumstances. It is like the stereotype of blindly obedient dog. An example is their attacks against refugees and not the white oligrach who displaced the people of color and force them to immigrant into Western European diaspora for a living. I do not know how many European diaspora are blindly following the oligarch that no longer provide welfare from colonial free riding, but I do know that they tend to be aware of the treason by their own elites. They are just unwilling to let go of the oligarch that babysit them so much.
Liberals are just the “left”-wing of fascism, after all.
Hearing a lib touting that USAID cut has already killed one made me wonder how many more USAID has indirectly harmed through their soft-power moves.
Probably tens of millions
The Syrian Kurds lost USAID funding for their concentration camp holding women and children without charge.
I’m often extremely frustrated with liberals, but I can’t really hate them, at least not the regular non-politician types. Trump’s victory has put many liberals in a state of despair and anger and I understand that perfectly well, but their anger is often misdirected. Some are taking the election loss to mean that they need to move further right. The consultants and newspaper opinion writers, etc. do a lot to legitimize this point of view, and it’s a shame. Propaganda works, and we’re not immune to it. I feel I have more to gain by treating these liberals with respect and compassion. (I don’t always succeed, though!)
There are some liberals I can’t stand, mostly politicians and consultants. I definitely hate the openly misanthropic right wing people more, and there are a lot more of them.
They love the lesser evil thing but are insufferable incapable to see what is the lesser evil.
There is a liberal org in my area that claims to advocate for the unhoused, but just last week they VOLUNTEERED to help the cops with clearing out a bunch of people’s tents and taking their shit. Tents donated to them just recently by the local Food Not Bombs org.
Yeah liberals are the best.
Ngl with the edit this is a funny troll
I couldn’t help myself, should I edit it back or wait a while longer?
How do i view the edit 😭 I used to could but idk if they removed it or if it ws ever an option
I said liberals were the worst to farm some upvotes and then edited to say best as a jokiepoo and luckily this guy liked the joke haha
Have you seen the #equalrights mural on the MR office? It’s unreal
Lmao yeah that was funny to see, so incompatible with what they stand for. I was also there when the egg throwing started. They were secured as if all the nation’s gold reserve was stored in the building.
Did you go for your workplace or just a different org?
for an org
I might even hate them more than far right people.
I do too comrade. I have been saying for the past couple of years that liberals are slightly to the right of conservatives. Regardless they uniquely piss me off.
Let’s go battle them together in hand to hand combat.
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OP lives in Belgium 💀
Thanks for proving OP correct about liberals
Are you lost? Do you need a map? Do you think this is a conservative instance? You seem very confused. Do you think everyone here is American?
another lemmy.ml banger
Lmao this is a communist instance, what Nazi are you talking about?
This reads like satire. Are you on the right instance?
Fear not! I’ve found their source.
Ah, I’ve seen this source before, but it’s a bit hazy and not well thought out, with a bit of a shaky ending.
What Nazi, pray tell?
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