• grue@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    A foreign democracy is sending an entire generation of their male populace into the afterlife to prevent Russia from expanding their borders and influence

    More to the point, to defend themselves. Ukraine isn’t playing some kind of geopolitical game; it’s trying to survive and has a huge moral high ground that your characterization of it disregards.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      I’m not disregarding anything. I’m making a point by driving home what it does for Americans, because all Americans care about is themselves. If I frame it from the perspective of Ukraine trying to defend themselves from invasion, Americans could give a fuck less.

      • grue@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        If that’s your goal, then you need to understand that Americans give even less of a fuck about the framing you gave it. It’s not the Cold War anymore; Americans have no concept that “Russia… expanding their borders and influence” would affect them in any way. Americans don’t even have a fucking clue where the borders being fought over even are!

        At least the “Ukrainian self-defense” angle has a clear villain and a heroic scrappy underdog to root for as entertainment. In terms of getting Americans to care, that really is your best bet.

        (Source: am American. And if you think this viewpoint is even more cynical than yours, then congratulations, you’re correct.)