The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from “The Nazi Bar” problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.
The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn’t seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:
This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.
Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.
Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.
Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).
I’m willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.
The problem is all your top communities are run by these right wing guys. I know you probably don’t want to have to trawl through every post, and neither do I. But shit attracts flies.
You should be made aware, for example, that the user who posted this https://thelemmy.club/post/23635160 and this https://thelemmy.club/post/23387257 in “Right Wing Videos” is a literal neo-nazi (see his Mastadon post profile here: https://friends.ravergram.club/@Bernard). I’m sure if we dig around some more there will be many more examples.
Unfortunately we can see where things are headed because we already had to deal with instances like exploding heads. I think that, while the mods themselves seem well behaved enough to not get reported, they are effectively acting as cover for the more unsavoury characters that right wing instances invariably attract.
Unless you want to spend all your time checking those communities, I just think you’re better off without them. You are right that jumping straight to a defed vote is a bit harsh maybe, but I think if we just blocked the communities then there would be no real pressure on you to take any further action, and personally I think it would be better for the fediverse to not have right wing content platformed.
Okay now see this stuff is actionable, Forgive me for not noticing this earlier, I did not know about these documentaries by name, and being that they were zero point, zero comment posts with no reports I had not seen it. The (non Lemmy Club) user that posted them has been banned with content removed. Additionally after some investigation site user Marathon started posting some stuff of that sort recently. Also banned them for apparently being a ban-evasion account and using their alts for vote manipulation. The communities that they moderated have been removed.
I would much prefer a report over a post like this one to fix these kind of issues. If they’re posts like these were - essentially zero interaction posts that go nowhere - it’s possible I may miss them.
I think I will have to make a new rule against “right wing” communities. I don’t think I have the capacity to moderate them due to my own viewpoint, and I can’t be hands off without risking them devolving. I won’t be banning the previously mentioned user, but I will remove their communities that are conservative-themed and not allow them to moderate in such a way to only allow such sources.
I think this will address the issue.
Honestly, that all sounds quite reasonable to me, and seems like a good faith response to my original complaint. Thank you for responding in the way you did.
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.