The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from “The Nazi Bar” problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.

The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn’t seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:

This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.

Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.

Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.

Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).

I’m willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:

If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.

  • uuldika@lemmy.ml
    11·
    2 days ago

    db0 isn’t my home, but my 2¢:

    Balkanization will be the death of Lemmy.

    Most new lemmings don’t know which server they should join when they come from Reddit. Many don’t even understand Federation in the first place. Users that pick the “wrong” instance are collateral damage. Non-toxic communities get caught in the crossfire. It might even discourage servers from allowing political communities at all, since they present a risk of defederation. An already small community becomes smaller.

    Also, the “Nazi Bar” problem (imo) should be reserved for fascists and bigots specifically, not all right-wing content in general: fascists because of the Paradox of Tolerance, and bigots because they’re mutually exclusive with the targets of their bigotry.

    Can’t you just block specific communities, or de-list the server from search instead?

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
      4·
      1 day ago

      “wrong” instance are collateral damage.

      Switching instances is almost trivial. I think you’re overblowing things. They’re not anymore collateral damage than getting permabanned from reddit because they wrote “Luigi”

      Also, the “Nazi Bar” problem (imo) should be reserved for fascists and bigots specifically, not all right-wing content in general: fascists because of the Paradox of Tolerance, and bigots because they’re mutually exclusive with the targets of their bigotry.

      The whole point of the Nazi bar story is to point out that you can’t let in “polite fascists” like the alt-right either. We saw that clearly in this instance, where a community about “right wing videos” which is supposed to be reasonable, ended up hosting literal neo-nazi videos and nobody reported it.