• lorty@lemmy.ml
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      Trump is continuing democrat policy on Gaza, so yes, just another obvious proof that they are two sides of the same coin.

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        Ooooh! I supposed that makes this timeline SO much better than how things would be under Kamala.

        Thanks for the perspective, bud!

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          You have no moral leg to stand on. Barely any noticeable difference between you and Trump/MAGA in how you view Palestinians as subhuman.

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          In the Kamala timeline, Israel keeps genociding the Palestinians while the democrats try to do a lot of mental gymnastics to try to paint it as a good thing

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            Bro trumps team literally made a shitty AI generated “we’re going to raze Gaza and build a gold plated hotel here” commercial. If that’s not “mental gymnastics to paint genocide as a good thing” idk what to say to you.

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              Also a bad thing.

              Not sure why the moment you criticize democrats they assume you support the other side

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                Cool we both agree it’s bad, now can we agree that the dems plans of “ok i guess we’ll slightly slow down the shipment of weapons to Israel but still honor the preexisting treaties we made with them” is not the same as “we’re going to send even more weapons and turn the Gaza Strip into a gilded Trumpland.”

                As for why people come out when people people criticize dems who else can even remotely get elected into the presidency? Jill “rubs shoulders with Putin at a fancy dinner” Stein of the deeply unserious “we’re only going to run one candidate for presidency and nowhere else, it’s not like Congress has to pass legislation and the House controls the budget” Green Party? Lmao that’s a good joke.

                Whatever “imma deregulated everything and abolish age of consent” joke of a candidate of the libertarians? Lmao the solution to our problems with capitalism is even more capitalism!

                The nonexistent leftist party and their imaginary radical leftist candidate who idolized Stalin a bit too much? The jokes keep coming.

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            Soooo…. Is it that you only give a shit about Palestinians? Fuck all the other people trump is going to hurt, right?

            Because it’s SO fucking easy to focus in on one single issue to base your entire personality and political ideology on. But man…. It sucks major ass when you zoom out just a bit and see ALL the other people being hurt by the arrogant and entitled decisions made by people who don’t have a fucking clue how the real world works.

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              And this is why democrats lost and will keep losing.

              They can’t be criticized or get called out for supporting a genocide.

              It is the bare minimum. They can’t even do that. They want unconditional support and loyalty, but won’t put any effort into accomplishing anything.

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              This is something we should keep in mind. Sure, it’s a bit sad that more than 50,000 Palestinians have been killed and Netenyahu says Tuesdays attacks that killed hundreds of women and children is “only the beginning”…

              But lets also think about the fact that eggs, gas and lumber prices have gone way up, and that those 9 trans college athletes in America cant play sports. Really puts it into perspective. I mean, who’s the real victim here?

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              libs are fine with all imperialist wars and genocide as long as it doesn’t affect them, we know

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                  The context is your own selfish reasons and total lack of solidarity for anything outside of what affects you, even when they enable and support the most horrific acts of this century.

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      Genocide Joe has already done 80% of the work.
      And there is zero reason to believe he would do anything to stop what they are doing now.
      He would blabber some words about having to watch out for civilian deaths while sending them more arms.
      His actions are 100% the same except he’s a hypocrite about it.

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          All these things you mention are just empty words.
          Like Genocide Joe or copmala’s emty words.
          What matters is actions and facts.
          And the complete support for genocide is a fact.
          So there is no difference, except as I said before, the dems being absolute hypocrites about it.

          Because of Shit happening in a country you probably didn’t give a shit about a year and a half ago

          You don’t know shit about me, so drop your BS claims out of vile hate and frustation from losing, which you people invariably project at true leftists, more than Trump bcs you’re all so mad some people have an actual consciense and humanity and couldn’t bare to be complicit by voting for either of the genocide factions.

          Besides, you’re having a clear case of the projections. Look at all the libs suddenly caring about evil orange man who is doing nothing different.
          Anyway, enough of this, you people will never learn anyway.
          A waste of time.

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        We show up in every Palestine post because we got constant verbal abuse from you people throughout the election cycle because we wanted to avoid the thing you just posted

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            I like how you saw me refer to “the thing you just posted,” which is about a genocide that Trump is helping to perpetrate, and you still can’t let go of the idea that this is all Genocide Joe’s fault

            And no, I don’t condone it. I just understand that the lesser of two evils is, in fact, preferable to the greater.

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              As a non american it disgust me how you make it about american politics. Genocide was happening before trump was in office, no amount of virtue signalling will change that. But go on keep thinking the whole world revolve around what happens in your shithole.

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                Do you not know that the thread you’re currently commenting in is specifically about an American president?

                This would mean that as a topic, American politics would be right within the wheelhouse of the discussion. And for the record, the conflict in Palestine was going on for decades before you ever knew wheee it was on a map.

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                  My point being that no matter who is the American president this genocide is happening. So quit bringing the discussion to you. And for the record it was going on for decades before i was even born, but i still don’t see how that would make it relevant to make it about americans and whoever is running their country.

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        Since you are changing the goal post I will bring it back to the original intent.

        You are a hypocrite that spews tankie ampliganda - Genocide Joe. You have used the suffering of Gaza for a political agenda.

        Fascist play with empathy, change goal posts, and gaslight.

        You are one.

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        15 hours ago

        And you show up in every political post saying dumb shit like “genocide Joe.”

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      centrists are just happy that at no point did they have to reconsider their loving support for genocide.

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            …. Says the guy that somehow seems to think we’re better off with Trump than with Kamala.

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              We’re not better off under trump. I voted for harris.

              I get that you imagine all opposition to the genocide that gives your life meaning must come from trumpists, but some people actually find genocide support to be repulsive.

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                Wait, you voted for Harris?

                That’s right! You also support genocide! I forgot about that. Because all who support Harris are genocide supporters! I remember you saying that.

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                  You can vote for harris without approving of her genocide support. I mean, you didn’t. You support genocide under all circumstances.

                  You can also oppose genocide without being a trumper, which you also can’t seem to grasp.

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                    You can vote for harris without approving of her genocide support

                    You’re SOOOOOOO close to getting it man! You just never take that final step. It seems like you just love getting right up to the very edge of understanding how shit works, and then purposefully pull back so you can keep yelling at people.

                    Stop yelling at people.