• index@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    What’s your definition of denazification to begin with?

    Trump got elected democratically in usa but there’s millions of good americans out there

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      14 hours ago

      Denazification would range from punishment to individuals to reeducation programs and reintegration programs that can help the propaganda of genocide be overcome.

      I would say the major difference between the genocidal actions of the American state and the Israeli state is that the citizens of the US are largely distanced from it. Both in terms of media but also more importantly geographically. Because of this the Israeli state not only has to manufacture consent for passive acceptance but actively manufacturer concent for the war crimes that every citizen can hear every night in Gaza.

      This leads to a much more sick society in terms of dehumanizing Palestinians.

      You seem to think I’m looking at this from some “good vs. bad” dynamic. I am not. I am only looking at the degree to which the state has manufactured concent in the population and that degree is to such an extreme in the Israeli society. It exists in America as well. But is primarily done through distractions, through their “toys”. Israel is different in this way. The population is not just (on average) distracted and xenophobic; they have reached a degree of dehumanizing Palestinians that will poison it’s population for generations.

      Also, the comparison between voting for Trump and Israel is just not reasonable at all. Trump is not a genocide that you can hear happening as bombs are dropped every night. The material circumstances are just not comparable. I’m not saying Trump and his actions will not hurt people. Again, I’m talking about the degree to which concent needs to be manufactured. And most Americans won’t notice until someone in their family gets sent to a camp.

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        2 hours ago

        Decades of propaganda don’t go away in a day but the main goal should be to stop the psychopath behind it rather than attacking people. “denazification” much resemble authoritarian rulers rhetoric like the one used by putin with ukraine.

        Keep in mind that israelis are also caught in a war, some of them are being forced to take side