• JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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    This is why you don’t vote idiots into the white house. Imagine this quality idiot dictating policy.

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      How this isn’t abuse is beyond me. They’ll screen about personal freedoms, but what about that poor child’s personal freedom.

      I hate that we let parents treat kids like property.

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    CHD and Kennedy have relentlessly spread dangerous misinformation about the safe, lifesaving MMR vaccine, including that it causes autism (it does not) and even deaths (it does not).

    So much better that she just died rather than got autism and then died.

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      As if autism is the worst thing you can have, come on… That’s actually offensive af of them to even say. I have autism and I’d rather have it than be dead, any day.

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        There are definitely days I’d rather be dead, but that’s not the autism’s fault, it’s morons that believe in this shit.

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    The denial after the fact is a necessary coping mechanism. Otherwise, they will suffer from the guilt of killing their child.

    Which they absolutely did.

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      Not really. She didn’t learn shit.

      She gets to hold her dead child who could have had a full life thanks to modern medicine and pretend like she’s the victim.

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    The most generous way I can look at this is to say she’s in denial. Five unvaccinated children with one dead. Apparently a 20% fatality rate (in her family) is not enough of a reason to get the vaccine.

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      The most generous way I can look at this is she’s a danger to her children, and they should be removed from her. Rejecting vaccines should not be a choice, just like choosing to starving your children should not be a choice.

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        If she got bit by a rabid dog, she’d get the vaccine in a heartbeat. Anti-vaxxers are only anti-vaxxers out of pure spite for science and the government. That’s literally it. Willfull ignorance and contradicting personalities in defiance of the status quo. If the disease has a low risk of them or their loved ones dying, they’ll take the risk of not taking the vaccine, because they suck at math and it can’t possibly happen to them and their family.

        If the risk of death is 100% (like in rabies), they’ll take the vaccine, because they know deep down they are fking wrong about vaccines and they don’t want the 100% chance of death.

        Btw, If you ever debate with an anti-vaxxer irl, asking them if they’d take the rabies vaccine once bit by a rabid animal does fuck up their stupid logic quite effectively.

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        Neither is science. These are the kids who set in the back of the class and got D’s and got passed by the teacher because they didn’t want to deal with them for another year.

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    There was another story the other day of a father whose unvaccinated daughter died of measles, and he said he was still glad she didn’t get the vaccine because he didn’t trust what’s in it to be safe. These people’s minds are not functioning rationally.

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      Iirc that was a Mennonite. Not that or makes things better, but they’re a weird cult, even for weird cults. Electric Amish.

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        Measles is insanely infectious. People have no clue the fire they’re inviting into our lives. Even vaccinated people are at risk.

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          Yes, so often we see people online saying “Ha ha, let the morons get COVID/measles/bird flu/etc!” They don’t stop to think about the risk to everyone else, particularly vulnerable people some of whom can’t get vaccinated and rely on herd immunity. In all these years still that lesson doesn’t seem to have been learned. I suspect the people saying this are healthy young people who haven’t really considered how different from theirs some people’s lives are.

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    Wild that you’re just allowed to be a child murderer if you claim the magic voices in your head say it’s okay. You’d think that the surviving kids would be saved from this kind of fucked up ideology, but in the U.S. we have concluded that it’s more important for people to be delusional.

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    That’s a 20% mortality rate. If vaccines had anywhere near that level of mortality risk, all the streets of every city in the world would be absolutely fucking littered with bodies. You have to be one dumb motherfucker to think this is some kind of vindication for your antivax position.

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      Well, the existence of these people are why the trolley problem is a problem at all. They think it’s more ok for 5 people to die by them not doing anything than 1 people dying instead because of their involvement.

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    Crazy that anti-vax has even a fig leaf of personal liberty as a defense. Yes, you do have the right to make your own choices and you can be a negligent parent in 1000 different ways.

    But this isn’t even close to a personal freedom issue. You being a dumb piece of shit is a direct threat to the rest of society. YOU don’t get to make the personal choice to kill MY child.

    It should be simple for these serious diseases: unless you have a certified medical issue preventing it, you have to get the shot. Fuck any objection (personal, religious, whatever…). If there’s some negative side effect or a bad vaccine batch, you get generously compensated for our collective societal fault in harming you.

    Strap them down and jab them, let them bitch and moan about everyone’s children being alive and healthy later.

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      Either that or, more gently, ban them from public spaces if they haven’t had the vaccine – schools, public administrations, grocery stores, malls, churches…

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        This is the approach I would suggest. I do not agree with forcing people to take vaccines, but if they want to be part of society then this is a reasonable requirement. It’s simply an extension of the duty of care principle we already have for healthcare environments where vaccination and other measures are required for people to work in.