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      You’d think the fact that despite all the money for “training” the keep killing more and more people, would be evidence enough?

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        Well, the implication of the comic is that funds for police training go to police militarization. I’m asking if this actually happened, but like you suggest it’s probably more of a vibes thing.

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        It seemed like a more specific claim. The culture problems could just be really bad, or the training was lazy or likely both.

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          Wow.
          Yes.
          Cops are not judge jury and executioner, and they should be able to de-escalate almost any situation, it’s literally their fucking job.
          Never mind that most other police forces around the world, while also bastards that serve capitalism and the state, still manage to enforce their authority without guns. So maybe just stop there for a minute and think about that entirely fucked up statement you just made, and what makes you think that’s normal, let alone justifiable.

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          Yes. Literally.

          If the United States Constitution were really being respected, extrajudicial killings would be exceptionally rare events.

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          Yeah, but just as you wouldn’t trust an airline that crashes as often as cops have unjustified shootings, why would you trust cops? One bad apple spoils the bunch. The police force can’t and shouldn’t have unjustified shootings. I understand there are dangers etc etc, but that is something they need to prepare for. They are given greater authority and that should come with greater responsibility.

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      Even in instances where it is used for training, often the training itself is problematic.

      See: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/daunte-wright-and-crisis-american-police-training/618649/

      The answer is not to give more money to police, who already take on average between 30-70% of the entire budget in their cities. The answer is to work towards abolishing the police. This is done a few ways, all simultaneously, and a good first step is things like Eugene Oregons CAHOOTS program or Denver’s STARS program.

      See: https://whitebirdclinic.org/what-is-cahoots/
      And: https://www.denverpost.com/2022/02/20/denver-star-program-expansion/

      Even if you believe in the myth that police are there to protect, 90% of the functions they currently serve have nothing to do with protection, but rather their primary purpose is to ensure compliance and subordination to the systems. Policing is inherently right wing work, and will forever attract primarily right wing individuals.

      The vast majority of police functions could and are better served by civilians. So even in you believe that we need police, there’s evidence to show that we don’t need police performing nearly as many functions as they do now. If they are to remain, they should remain only as acute crisis response teams, on a primarily volunteer basis, much in the way the fire department works.