Of course it looks like shit though. It doesn’t size to your screen, it looks like normal teams but really small.
Outlook works in the browser fine, and maybe I don’t want to have teams on my personal phone but occasionally want to check things
Unsupported doesn’t mean it won’t work:
it looks like shit though. It doesn’t size to your screen, it looks like normal teams but really small.
This is what unsupported means.
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I agree, but it’s unsupported in that Teams “doesn’t support” the mobile browser, not that the mobile browser “doesn’t support” Teams. Perfect example of a deceptive dark pattern.
This is pretty normal for sites that are not set up to look/run well on mobile, tbh.
Yes, but it could have an option to choose desktop version on phone screen or download app.
They could even design a mobile friendly website.
If they are lying to you and you need to circumvent their demands, then that is asshole design in my view,.too.
Who is lying? Sure, you can argue lazy/cheap by not designing for mobile, but as someone who does some web design and does design for mobile responsiveness, it’s honestly annoying and I don’t blame them.
I’m pretty sure the mobile teams UI is also just web stack with a webview wrapper. They want you to use the app so you have to install intune and to get deeper into your system.
Unsupported, with a screen not showing what it should means doesn’t work, for a non tech user. It’s deliberate misrepresentation. This is also called lying.
You can lie by omission. You can lie blatantly and you can lie by inference.
Sure, mobile responsive design can be frustrating. However, they are a giant company with billions in resources. They are not doing it to help users, they are doing it to force app downloads and data harvesting.
When I tried this, second half of 2024, I had to spoof my user-agent and use private mode to not get ID’d as the mobile browser who just tried to load the site.
I mean it’s fine to tell people that your site doesn’t work as intended, it’s fine that you have to request the desktop site. And I’m not complaining about the user experience. FFS I used to surf with the Opera browser MIDlet, on my Samsung d500, 20 years ago. Having an interface that matches your screen is a luxury most people take for granted these days.
But I feel like I had to jump through multiple hoops to bypass microsoft’s wish that I install their client and have it be connected in the background.
I didn’t mention this in the main post but teams used to scale down and work fine on mobile previously.
And is there any reason a company as big as m$ couldn’t support a mobile version of teams?
There’s no good reason, no, other than the laziness/cheapness previously mentioned.
They saw Facebook doing this shit with their perfectly working mobile version of messenger and then saying “why not”. My solution is that then I completely stopped using messenger
I hated Facebook for doing this and fought for years to use an alternative. I finally gave up and used regular messenger when they finally killed off Messenger Lite
What do you expect? Its an anti-competition wedge designed entirely to push out competion of the market. Thats it.
Its a website for websites, which naturally does a fraction of what the websites functionally do and thats being very nice.
Its a functional turd. 💩
Typical crappy move to force people to use apps with fewer features and extra bugs.
They wouldn’t let me log into my windows account last time I set up Windows 11. The same password worked fine in office online and I was able to sign in on the new pc with the PIN. I don’t even know what they were trying to force me into…
Spent the last two days compiling llama.cpp and dealing with all the asshole design bullshit due to the project devs using VS code to configure CMake. Same junk. Like if your project uses VS code, that shit is not open source. Excuses about VS codium are garbage. It doesn’t work and is only a bait to make people incrementally flush their ethics. I’m stuck reading source to fix errors and configure packages. The documentation is just wrong in many areas and incomplete. I’d write up issues, but m$ tried to get me to use their shitty 2FA app and used no easy well documented open source alt to get me to leave GitHub because of more asshole designs. GitHub and VS code are Windows nonsense 2.0. I cringe at the idea of coming back to any professional space with the level of digital slavery and whoring that is normalized.
I thought VS was one of the few god m$ apps. What do you recommend as a script editor instead?
I’m using doom emacs and some neovim.
VSCode, the IDE? I’m out of the loop on what makes code written in there not open source!
Presumably, they’re trying to build for Windows and according to llama.cpp’s documentation this might require the MSVC toolchain. Honestly, a lot of applications use the MSVC toolchain so it’s not that special. Besides, CUDA (but not HIP) is available in WSL2 so depending on GPU they could just use that.
Also, apparently they can’t log into GitHub without the Microsoft Authenticator app. Now, I haven’t logged into GitHub in a long time but I do deal with Microsoft’s SSO for my job and a generic TOTP app works just fine there. (And when I checked GitHub’s documentation on the issue it said “download a TOTP app of your choice” so I don’t see how Microsoft’s app is supposed to be required.)
What are you on about? Llama.cpp compiles just fine for me using clang or GCC. Didn’t even need to do much just normal cmake commands.
Sounds like the problem sits between the chair and keyboard.
Building llguidance, multi architecture, and all supported back ends.
Do you always act like such an asshole to random strangers by personally insulting them, or is it just when there are no apparent peer pressure consequences from people in your daily immediate surroundings. Some humans are physically disabled in involuntary social isolation due to the actions of others. Imagine you were such a person on the other end and had this kind of interaction in your only human contact outside of a bedroom prison of a life.
Good for you. And no, I am treating people offline and online pretty much the same.
You should reflect on your initial comment and how that set the tone for the conversation. You claim llama.cpp to not be open source. Well it is in every definition even if it depends on proprietary software. Which it does not necessarily need to as it is fully compilable without cuda, etc with just the CPU inference Backend.
It is the CPU back end that is giving me trouble with build all. The free as in freedom aspect of open source is violated when any software promotes and primarily supports a proprietary tool chain. Things like how there are two checklist files, one in the primary and one in the build directory likely prevents many from succeeding. If the initial configuration was wrong or needs to be changed, the user will likely attempt to change the checklist in the main directory only to find that the changes do nothing. Several of the back ends also require manually tracking down their library paths and adding these to the source. Many of these, such as BLAS, CuBLAS, and Vulkan will fail until just the right version is included while the errors have no hinting. There are numerous other issues like ARM options not described as such, and ambiguous runtime options. Various edge case options generate a fatal warning error. Once any of these are set, the build fails without hinting about the cause, and the barely mentioned solution of manually editing the checklist yields no results.
I’m sure this is trivial for the average dev, but dev I am not. I’m just some weird script kiddie that can also build an ALU with a NOR gate, or might talk about a 65C816 in a room of 6502 fans. But I have a large number of other interests in life.
Be nicer to people. When some dumbass takes 8.5 of your 9 cat lives on the road one day, cordiality can have a large impact on your daily. I was much the same to others and regret it.
Are you complaining that the desktop version looks like shit when your force it in mobile?
Teams used to work in the browser and doesn’t now.
Other m$ apps scale down on mobile browser fine, like outlook. The web version looks just like the app.
M$ are one of the biggest companies in the world, they could easily support responsive design in teams if they wanted to.
This is all a push too get you to use the teams app when the browser version worked fine previously
Waiter, I shit in this soup and now it tastes like shit!
