You can debate the need to arrest, but creating a ruse that ends up with the man being shot several times?

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    It may not have been legal since he was on federal land. He wouldn’t have pulled a gun on them if they had not played silly games (Most likely) I state the most likely since we don’t know much about him, but there is no indication he was a hardened criminal ready to fight law enforcement. I don’t like when law enforcement creates scenarios where people feel the need to defend themselves because they’re confused as to what is going on.

    Had they just walked up and identified themselves, I do not think anyone would have been shot.

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      Agreed. It’s likely that the cops set the conditions for this to happen; maybe not consciously, but still.

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        Absolutely, and for many cops, it’s not even subconscious. They enjoy confrontational situations where they have every advantage of law, gunpower, steroids, and the ever-present public perception that they’re good guys no matter what.

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        That is my issue. It is like a no-knock warrant where they kick in the door at 2am and kill the home owner.

        I am not 100% against no knock warrants but they should be rare. I have read many stories where they ended up someone being dead over something more trivial that could have been dealt with during daylight hours and just talking to the person in public.

        It is why I support reform. I am not anti-law enforcement at all but I am against bad law enforcement.

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      We do know that it is legal to have guns in national forests in Idaho.

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        You’re correct. I thought there will still some debate about it but looks like federal law matches state law since 2010. The only difference is in buildings.

        I know in the past federal land had more restrictions