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      Snarky Commenter

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      “I DON’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT THE THINGS THAT UPSET ME AND THINGS THAT UPSET ME SHOULD CEASE TO EXIST I AM VERY SNARKY” smurf-cursed

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    even if it had graphic depictions of Holocaust, whats the problem? children are supposed to learn history, even gruesome parts of it.

    high school history textbooks in the U.S. show photos of Holocaust, right?

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      Textbooks in the US tend to be pretty bad. But I assume most books they still have photos but the right-wing is creating tsunamis of shit. It’s hard to keep track of everything they are up to.

      I think their attacks on Holocaust-related material is them testing the fences like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. If they can succeed in banning Holocaust-related material - they can have the confidence to try to ban anything.

      Holocaust novel “Maus” banned in Tennessee school district | PBS NewsHour

      Jan 27, 2022 9:33 PM EDT

      ATHENS, Tenn. — A Tennessee school district has voted to ban a Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel about the Holocaust due to “inappropriate language” and an illustration of a nude woman, according to minutes from a board meeting.

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        The stuff that Americans take offense to is hilarious. This reminds me of the scene in Hannibal with 2 corpses that had the skin on their back peeled off and cut into wings. NBC thought it was inappropriate because the buttcracks of the bodies were visible, so they obscured them with blood.

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        I think their attacks on Holocaust-related material is them testing the fences like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. If they can succeed in banning Holocaust-related material - they can have the confidence to try to ban anything.

        I think it’s slightly more pointed than that, because education on the Holocaust is one of the few bulwarks we have against the popularization of hardcore antisemitism (however ineffective it still is)

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      it’s not because of the holocaust. the holocaust isn’t directly mentioned in Anne’s diary. she had no way of knowing what was happening or where jews were being taken. the actual reason idiots are mad about it is because it’s the diary of a teenage girl, and she talks unguardedly about her romantic and sexual feelings. the taboo subject here for these people is that anyone might make it to 16 without hating their body.

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        ya ik what i was saying was that photos are very good at conveying the true scale of cruelty.

        for example U.S. censored photos after nuclear bombing of Japan

        American public highly approved of the use of the bomb and believed that the U.S. decision to drop the bombs in Japan was justified. The paper also observes that after censorship was officially lifted, publications such as Life uncovered shocking, gruesome accounts of the aftermath of the bombings. Therefore, the photographs and captions support the idea that the U.S. government wanted to avoid domestic and international criticism for the brutality of the bomb that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        Photographs in the August issue provided a distanced aerial shot of the cities, but neglected to show the moaning victims, the crowded hospitals, or any other indication of the devastation left behind by two of the most destructive explosions in human history. It took Life seven years to tell what Burchett had told the world; articles in the September 1952 issue called the victims of the atomic bombs the “Walking Dead”, and shocked its readers with graphic pictures of radiation-burns on young children

        http://www.dukeeastasianexus.com/a-veiled-truth-the-us-censorship-of-the-atomic-bomb.html

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      depends on the state I’m sure, mine had pictures of concentration camp prisoners and probably various shots of parts of the camps, but I don’t remember any death or gore

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        Sometimes you’ll get photos of mass graves, there are a handful of really infamous ones (including one with a long trench extending into the background). Also some slightly morbid ones like massive piles of shoes or removed gold teeth.

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    If people just got over themselves and called it a comic book, that specific communication could at least be avoided, since there is absolutely no difference except that “graphic novels” want to be respected by a mainstream audience.

    Not even a knock on the author, the label is probably from the publisher.

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      IMO “graphic novel” is a little more specific. Long-running superhero or manga series aren’t graphic novels, nor are newspaper comics.

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        Thing is, there are plenty of books that are called “comics” for various reasons, such as Maus, compilations of weekly publications of a non-strip serial (e.g. tankobons)*, and some other cases.

        *compare to how many classic novels, e.g. work by Charles Dickens, were initially published chapter-by-chapter but are now read as compilations. Many manga as well as western comics also get published this way (e.g. I have an old Daredevil book that was originally published on a monthly basis but reads just fine consecutively as a unified book)

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          Right, a lot of “graphic novels” are serialized. But there’s a difference between Watchmen running for 12 issues to tell its entire story and some Superman series running for 12+ years. No one would call One Piece a graphic novel; it takes up an entire bookcase.

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            They might call a tankobon or a larger volume of One Piece a graphic novel if it was formatted in an episodic way (e.g. the “Romance Dawn” arc, the first 7 chapters, in one book), because at that point it would be very much like serialized graphic novels in the west, or at least the ones that I’m familiar with. Even with the ones that would take a few books, it’s not like we don’t have things like “John Flodstritum and the Amulet of Nevar, Pt 3” being published as "graphic novels.