Hello World,
Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to defederate from Lemmygrad.
Regrettably, we have observed a significant increase in hate speech and calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance. Due to the severity of the posts and comments, we are not waiting for the next Lemmy update that will allow users to block instances.
At Lemmy.world, we have always strived to foster an inclusive and welcoming user environment. However, recent posts and comments from Lemmygrad have clearly violated our server rules and, more importantly, our core values. We firmly believe that hate speech and incitement of violence have no place in our community, regardless of personal beliefs or affiliations.
As always, we encourage all users to report any content they deem inappropriate or harmful. No matter one’s stance in any conflict, Lemmy.world will always take immediate action to remove and ban any posts or comments that incite violence or propagate hatred.
We encourage everyone to continue engaging in discussions within the boundaries of respect and understanding. As we move forward with this decision, we remain committed to providing all community members with a safe and welcoming space. We appreciate your continued support and cooperation in upholding our shared principles.
Thank you,
The Lemmy.World Team
you must be a farmer because that’s a very obvious strawman
where’s everyone else’s nuance in this thread? Is it just me who needs to write a carefully worded diplomatic letter?
You want my opinion, I think we are making the same mistakes we made after 9/11, where we work ourselves up into a fucking frenzy, ignore the historical background of what’s happening, buy in to a simplified narrative, and give vague blanket support to whatever awful countermeasures we’re told are appropriate. Like the indiscriminate bombings that are killing hundreds of Palestinians now and probably not hitting a single Hamas fighter since they’re all down in the fucking tunnels.
Or this collective punishment shit, which is a fucking war crime against the entire population of Gaza:
It starts to sound like “human animals” might refer to Palestinians in general.
Hi! Jew here, the perfect person to talk about this situation!
The continued occupation of Palestein is not a good situation under any circumstance except that by Israel holding that land it prevents the neighboring countries from invading the area and starting wars with Israel which is why the land is held. Feel free to ignore the whole “it’s our birthright, it’s jewish land” cause let’s be honest, even that’s questionable in the torah.
Moving right along, the continued occupation is the reason for the attack, but that makes it no more correct. Innocent people, potentially including children definitely including teenagers, have been murdered.
With that understanding out of the way, lemmygrad was defeded because users were actively posting in favor of the murder and in multiple cases posting/hoping/whatevering for even more of it. Guess what? That’s 100% against TOS of lemmy.world. I don’t like the situation the two nations are in but advocating for the death of innocent people is fucking disgraceful.
I take it as frustrated leftists overcorrecting in the other direction in response to media coverage that ignores the decades of openly racist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and treats this attack as some sudden unprovoked thing out of left field.
While you’re welcome to take it that way, celebrating innocent deaths of any group of people is abhorrent.
struggling to reach escape velocity with this comment, wording it is mentally taxing but the later it gets the slower I think
I can’t speak for anyone or read the thoughts behind people’s words online, but I know people tend to say fucked up things when they are angry and I know people are really fucking angry right now, myself included. That doesn’t mean I feel catharsis watching religious extremists slaughter a village of Israeli settlers or shoot up of a fucking rave — but I feel a kind of enraged grief. Because that kind of barbarism and extremism is the inevitable fucking result of what has been done in Palestine. Extremism like that doesn’t spring up in a vacuum. When you hear things like, half of the people in Gaza are children, and half of those children struggle with suicidal thoughts, and 95% of the fucking water is unsafe to drink, and most of the population is unemployed, and then you turn on the news and all the politicians and media personalities are throwing their unreserved support to the government responsible for it… and then I go on lemmy and I see comments talking about Palestinians like they’re some kind of hive mind, and getting upvotes for it, it just feels like these attitudes are why the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians can continue. And I’m helpless to do anything about it. It’s fucking maddening.
The problem is comments like theirs in such large numbers do nothing to actually help.
It’s kinda like if someone were cheering on a homeless serial killer. (Not that they are serial killers but follow the analogy for a second) Dude once had a decent life, good job, family, good house the works. Then things outside of his control caused all of those things to be lost and him wandering the streets and he decided fuck it and started killing people. Now add to it that all of it was pretty publicized so now anytime he kills people you have people decrying the murder but you have people cheering that he’s getting back for a world that harmed him.
Neither really helps sadly. If you really want to help, I think the best solution may be to work towards a career in diplomacy with a focus on the Middle East and to spend significant amount of time brainstorming solutions for the situation.
Let’s add to this analogy that the entire media is pointing to this homeless guy as an excuse to kill other homeless people
Not wrong we could probably just ignore media these days and be a bit happier
This is true, but doesn’t make it any less abhorrent.
It just doesn’t work that way. Maximum tolerance doesn’t mean intolerance for the average, unrelated civilian that happens to belong to the oppressing group.
There’s that unfortunate modification to “those who don’t learn history are doomed to repeat it”:
Those who do learn history are doomed to watch others repeat it
The difference is that you can still call out the Israeli government without supporting Hamas’s deplorable actions.
Oh I already do. Not a fan of Israel’s kind of shaky interpretation of the Torah for why holding Gaza is ‘approved’, and very very against Hamas as an entity even before all this stuff in October 2023.
It’s a tricky thing, having a possible enemy right at your gates for years and years. For the sake of example, what if Russia as we know it was where Canada currently is? How does one remain calm when there are those plotting right in front of you?
Those civilians on both sides don’t deserve any of this.
I agree with your message insofar that the Israeli government is absolutely genocidal. That doesn’t make Hamas’s actions any more justified tho, and that’s most likely the reason why lemmygrad is being defeded: All the people saying that Hamas did nothing wrong, and those that call for the death of Israeli citizens (rather than the toppling of the Israeli government).
Unfortunately for you no one wants your opinion
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You have snow in your user. Chances are you are a penguin. Or a cocaine dealer.
Hexabear hasn’t been federated in a while.
Alts on other instances that are federated exist for that reason.