This gets people off in various states in the U.S. It’s referred to as the “gay panic” defense here.
Absolutely bullshit excuse for people to murder or commit hate crimes.
I’m a straight man and I find it very complimentary when I’ve had gay guys be interested in me. I take that as a compliment that I’m put together and well-groomed.
Interestingly, the killers of Matthew Shepherd have said publically over and over again, they were NOT trying to commit a hate crime and they couldn’t have cared less about Matthew Shepherd’s sexuality. They were “friends” of his who had been totally aware of his sexuality for years. The night they brutally killed him, they went after another person (not homosexual) and beat them up also. I tend to believe they didn’t really target Matthew so much over his sexuality, as much as that he was an easy target because he was a gentle person who wouldn’t fight back when they decided to let out their brutal anger. As a gay person, I appreciate the martyrdom and the forum that Matt Shepherd’s family has provided, but I think we should listen to what a murderer says about their reasons for committing a crime - especially in this case, where it really wasn’t about gay panic at all if the truth be known.
Not get off, but used basically as a temporary insanity plea to get a reduced sentence. It’s basically an admission of guilt to request a lower charge. And yes, the Wiki article cites numerous examples, the most famous one being the guy who killed somebody after finding out on a talk show his friend was gay and has a crush on him. He used the defense and got 2nd-degree murder instead of 1st.
No you couldn’t. You could try, but it never works. Nobody is dumb enough to believe that you killed someone out of gay panic. You killed them because you’re a sick pervert of a monster and looking for some excuse to hurt others. That’s the only truth that really comes out of these proceedings time and time again.
Nope and there never could be, thank God. The “gay panic defense” was just a falsehood, a way to manipulate the truth to make it seem like there was some way to justify being a hateful bigot with no morals or ability to control themselves. And it never worked, it was never a successful defense anyway - thanks to educated people with more intelligence being able to see right through it for the morally corrupt bullshit it really is. Nothing can justify murder or assault, and judges and smart people know that.
That has never worked. This is a boogeyman that you see people even in this thread blow up as “literally letting you kill people for being lgbt+!” When that is not the case at all.
Wait there was a law that allowed you to kill someone if they were gay?
You could use it as a defense after the fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
WTF that is a shit defense. Did that actually get anyone off? That like pleading insanity.
This gets people off in various states in the U.S. It’s referred to as the “gay panic” defense here.
Absolutely bullshit excuse for people to murder or commit hate crimes.
I’m a straight man and I find it very complimentary when I’ve had gay guys be interested in me. I take that as a compliment that I’m put together and well-groomed.
Didn’t work, but it was the attempted defense in the Matthew Shepherd case.
Interestingly, the killers of Matthew Shepherd have said publically over and over again, they were NOT trying to commit a hate crime and they couldn’t have cared less about Matthew Shepherd’s sexuality. They were “friends” of his who had been totally aware of his sexuality for years. The night they brutally killed him, they went after another person (not homosexual) and beat them up also. I tend to believe they didn’t really target Matthew so much over his sexuality, as much as that he was an easy target because he was a gentle person who wouldn’t fight back when they decided to let out their brutal anger. As a gay person, I appreciate the martyrdom and the forum that Matt Shepherd’s family has provided, but I think we should listen to what a murderer says about their reasons for committing a crime - especially in this case, where it really wasn’t about gay panic at all if the truth be known.
I can’t believe I’d never heard of this case. Granted I was a 14yo British kid when it happened so prob didn’t hit my radar.
Holy fucking Christ this is heart wrenching!!!
That poor lad. I hope those fucking bastards rot in jail. 😭
Wat
It was the argument their own legal team used, so I’m not going to give them too much benefit of the doubt.
Well I get that - and I don’t think anything can excuse what they did no matter what “reason” they did it.
Not get off, but used basically as a temporary insanity plea to get a reduced sentence. It’s basically an admission of guilt to request a lower charge. And yes, the Wiki article cites numerous examples, the most famous one being the guy who killed somebody after finding out on a talk show his friend was gay and has a crush on him. He used the defense and got 2nd-degree murder instead of 1st.
No you couldn’t. You could try, but it never works. Nobody is dumb enough to believe that you killed someone out of gay panic. You killed them because you’re a sick pervert of a monster and looking for some excuse to hurt others. That’s the only truth that really comes out of these proceedings time and time again.
Nope and there never could be, thank God. The “gay panic defense” was just a falsehood, a way to manipulate the truth to make it seem like there was some way to justify being a hateful bigot with no morals or ability to control themselves. And it never worked, it was never a successful defense anyway - thanks to educated people with more intelligence being able to see right through it for the morally corrupt bullshit it really is. Nothing can justify murder or assault, and judges and smart people know that.
Not only a law but a defense strategy in court. Gay Panic and Trans Panic as well.
That has never worked. This is a boogeyman that you see people even in this thread blow up as “literally letting you kill people for being lgbt+!” When that is not the case at all.
I should have been more clear that it was not a valid defense. I agree with what you are saying.