• Jesus_666@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    The second amendment is nominally there to allow people to form state militias in case the United States get invaded. With that in mind (and ignoring the many ways in which this kind of militia is completely irrelevant for defense purposes these days) we can come up with a reasonable compromise.

    Anyone is allowed to own any gun they want. Access to ammunition is strictly regulated; only the state and shooting ranges are allowed to own ammo at all and the latter are under very strict supervision. Unlawful possession of ammunition is a felony.

    In case the US Army is overrun each state will conscript all gun owners and issue them ammunition from the stockpile so they can go out and engage any enemy forces susceptible to infantry attack.

    I’m sure all fans of the second amendment are going to love this plan. /s

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      8 months ago

      That’s pretty much the setup that early colonists had, and it makes a lot of sense.

      Ammo and muskets were kept in an armory, cuz it was dangerous to have powder laying around your candlelit home and muskets required frequent maintenance by skilled craftsmen.

      Firearms were also somewhat collectively-owned, because they were primarily a means of collective defense.

      Think about it: You’ve got the British in the ocean to the East, rival colonies to the North and South, indigenous tribes to the West, and the ever-present possibility of a mob of outlaws literally taking over your town.

      It’s a very different world, and a very different relationship to weaponry.

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      The second amendment is nominally there to allow people to form state militias in case the United States get invaded.

      I want to add to this, because it’s never mentioned.

      As with most problems in the world (prove me wrong), it can be traced back to British colonialism. The British usually disarmed everyone in their colonies, but American colonists were allowed to have guns and form militias because they were actively forcing Natives off their land.

      Basically everyone had guns or access to them, and every colony had militias. Without them, there’s no chance the colonists could have then taken on the strongest empire in the world.

      So now the line is that we need guns to fight tyranny, or whatever.

      But… We did that. We won. We have a “democracy” now. We rounded up or killed all the Natives and fulfilled our Manifest Destiny™️. We have the most powerful military in the fucking visible universe.

      Does my dumbass alcoholic neighbor Randy really need an AR to fight the gubmint?

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        8 months ago

        The 2nd Amendment is from 1791, decades after the US had become an independent country. So you can’t blame this one on the British.

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          8 months ago

          As an Irish person, I say it’s ok to blame whatever you want on the Brits.

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            8 months ago

            They declared independence quite some time before that. And your maths does not disprove my point in any way either way. The 2nd amendment does not have anything to do with the British. I know it must be a hard burden, but Americans must take full responsibility for the 2nd amendenment.

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          I don’t think they blamed the British. They just explained their theory as to why the colonists could take control.

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            8 months ago

            As with most problems in the world (prove me wrong), it can be traced back to British colonialism.

            I don’t think they blamed the British.

            You may not think so, but your reading skills leaves something to be desired.

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      btw. i believe this is somewhat similar to how Switzerland handles assault rifles nowadays. There are situations where you are allowed to have an assault rifle at home or even carry it in public but the ammo has to be locked away at a central storage that is guarded. They can very quickly hand out the ammo to the holders if necessary, i.e. for training on the shooting range. I am not Swiss so this is only hearsay though.