Well i blame the US for influence this part of the world with their war on drug campaign, and the fear of drug is the direct result of opium war. It’s not even that long ago that US started to legalise recreational use of marijuana, it’s kinda condescending to it in such simple way.
At least there’s been multiple talk by the government of Malaysia (where i’m from) to decriminalise drug, not sure about Singapore.
Yeah. The issue with Singapore is they have extremely strong ruling party and nepotism run strong, so the old perspective will take some time to ease out. If there’s more and more evidence piling up on medical use i’m sure they will move to decriminalise.
The only country to have legal recreational marijuana in South East Asia is Thailand, though they’re about to pull back the decision.
Not sure it’s that simple, since liberty is also a human right, so punishing crimes with prison would also violate human rights if you follow that line of thinking
I live in Singapore; this comparision is deranged. The worst you could say for SG are draconian drug laws, we aren’t upholding slavery and slaughtering journalists/opposition parties in broad daylight. This is like equating Taiwan to Palestine or South Korea to North Korea for fuck sake
It’s like gateway drug of crimes. JK, It all goes back to litering, gum has lots of wrappers and the inedible gum itself. No gum helps build the SG culture of zero tolerance for crimes. If you teach children even the smallest of crimes have serious repercussions they will be less likely to commit future crimes. At least that’s the idea, it’s easier in a rich country where people have their basic needs fulfilled.
That’s definitely one way of viewing it. I’m definitely anti-authoritarian, but the city-state has the right to agree upon a strict set of rules and standards of behavior and to hold people accountable to uphold peace and order. It’s a trade-off for a life in a much more stable country compared to the US where there is always a risk of people infringing on public peace. Ranging from simple things like littering, obnoxiously loud music in public, to something more dramatic like robbery, or even getting caught in a mass shooting because some depressed guy in his early 20s bought a gun from walmart. Say what you will about their government structure but none of these things mentioned are an issue in Singapore.
All you need is to completely disregard human rights and Singapore is pretty decent.
Other than the gross attitude toward people from weaker country and their treament of maid as if they’re dog, what other human right issue they have?
They love executing people and long prison sentences like it’s medieval era.
marijuana? DEATH
Well i blame the US for influence this part of the world with their war on drug campaign, and the fear of drug is the direct result of opium war. It’s not even that long ago that US started to legalise recreational use of marijuana, it’s kinda condescending to it in such simple way.
At least there’s been multiple talk by the government of Malaysia (where i’m from) to decriminalise drug, not sure about Singapore.
US foreign and domestic policy certainly deserves a share of the blame. And we don’t even have universal legal access here, it’s a shit show.
Yeah. The issue with Singapore is they have extremely strong ruling party and nepotism run strong, so the old perspective will take some time to ease out. If there’s more and more evidence piling up on medical use i’m sure they will move to decriminalise.
The only country to have legal recreational marijuana in South East Asia is Thailand, though they’re about to pull back the decision.
dang, that’s a shame for Thailand - new junta, new rules I guess.
Well they aren’t junta, they legitimately won an election. I think you’re confused Thailand with Myanmar lol
everyone’s a junta. we’ve got the dem junta and conservative junta’s over here vying for power. don’t take it personally.
I thought it was mostly with the British and forcing Opium on the Chinese.
Yes, but the story and fear never left the community, it passed on for generations and spread across the south east asia.
well, that *technically *doesn’t violate any human rights, i guess
If you don’t consider living a human right
Not sure it’s that simple, since liberty is also a human right, so punishing crimes with prison would also violate human rights if you follow that line of thinking
Mostly it does since most “crimes” and nonsense
A few? Sure. Most? Definitely not.
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“other than abusing people from other countries, what other issue do they have”
Hey that’s antisemite.
I love that I can feel your vernacular in your writing. please never change. /gen
Disneyland with the death penalty
The same goes for the UAE or Saudi Arabia
I live in Singapore; this comparision is deranged. The worst you could say for SG are draconian drug laws, we aren’t upholding slavery and slaughtering journalists/opposition parties in broad daylight. This is like equating Taiwan to Palestine or South Korea to North Korea for fuck sake
The hardest of drugs: chewing gum
It’s like gateway drug of crimes. JK, It all goes back to litering, gum has lots of wrappers and the inedible gum itself. No gum helps build the SG culture of zero tolerance for crimes. If you teach children even the smallest of crimes have serious repercussions they will be less likely to commit future crimes. At least that’s the idea, it’s easier in a rich country where people have their basic needs fulfilled.
Sounds like it would teach them to fear and blindly trust authority. Which I’m sure sounds fine to them.
That’s definitely one way of viewing it. I’m definitely anti-authoritarian, but the city-state has the right to agree upon a strict set of rules and standards of behavior and to hold people accountable to uphold peace and order. It’s a trade-off for a life in a much more stable country compared to the US where there is always a risk of people infringing on public peace. Ranging from simple things like littering, obnoxiously loud music in public, to something more dramatic like robbery, or even getting caught in a mass shooting because some depressed guy in his early 20s bought a gun from walmart. Say what you will about their government structure but none of these things mentioned are an issue in Singapore.
The states are a pretty low bar
They are drastically different places, that’s why I compared them
You can swallow gum. Not sure why that myth exists. It’ll pass whole and come out with the rest of your shit.
But why.
You can swallow a marble too, that doesn’t make it edible.
If you swallow the occasional one it’s fine but probably not if you make a habit out of it.
for the most part I agree, and I grok SG’s laws on free speech as a concession to too many religious folks bottled up in too small an area. ok.
but.
Death for marijuana? REALLY? Like… DEATH?
That’s where it goes off the rails for me. deport somebody, put 'em in jail for a few years, sure, have your rules…
and fuck, cocaine? opium? heroin etc? I guess if you really need to but the mary jane? naw man… just… naw.
fan of the country, been for business, love the food, but won’t visit for personal travel because of this.
I agree with you - hell, we fucked over our best athlete (Joseph Schooling) just for partaking overseas - nobody gets a pass.
He’s not even “our” athlete. He was trained and brought up overseas. Just happened to be Singaporean by birth.