Muslim Americans voted overwhelmingly for Biden. But community leaders in swing states tell NBC News that the president's handling of the war in Gaza risks losing their support.
Right but… they don’t want Trump to be president. They want someone like Biden to be (or Biden) and for Biden to not support a brewing ‘Hot’ Genocide (It was already arguably one and I don’t know the proper terms here). It’s just that the only leverage they have is withdrawing support. It’s a game of chicken.
It’s just that the only leverage they have is withdrawing support. It’s a game of chicken.
I don’t disagree with what you said, but this right here is the most correct. My only point was that their leverage amounts to holding a grenade and pulling the pin. Sure, they’ll hurt the Dems for not doing the right thing, but they’re still going to hurt themselves much worse.
The problem with that is, because of the duopoly on federal power right now, third parties are neutered on the national level. Voting for them nationally is little more than a token gesture, and does more harm then good.
It sucks, and I hate it, but its also the truth. State and local races benefit more from third party/independent votes, which is where attention should be more focused.
I do sympathize with those disenfranchised by the lesser of two evils party. Its a difficult position to be in.
Do you have the same feelings for those who suffer battered partner syndrome, with children? Why don’t you have the same amount of compassion for millions of us who want to get out of a bad relationship with abusive politicians?
Millions haven’t voted for a third party in a century, maybe longer.
A third party winning and overtaking the democrats would take splitting the vote for at least a decade, maybe more, and therefore letting fascists have complete control for that duration.
This is not a logical way of gaining working class power, so please get off your high horse when democracy is literally at stake.
Let’s not forget that the Republicans are actively stripping voting rights away. Do leftists really think letting them win is gonna be a good strategy for any hope to change the system?
I say this as a leftist that it is ludicrous to think letting the Republicans win (as that is all voting 3rd party federally will accomplish). Let’s not delude ourselves into thinking either A) the Republicans would actually let any left-leaning power bloc or parry exist or B) people stuck under Republicans will violently overthrow them and institute left-leaning policies/government.
Right but… they don’t want Trump to be president. They want someone like Biden to be (or Biden) and for Biden to not support a brewing ‘Hot’ Genocide (It was already arguably one and I don’t know the proper terms here). It’s just that the only leverage they have is withdrawing support. It’s a game of chicken.
I don’t disagree with what you said, but this right here is the most correct. My only point was that their leverage amounts to holding a grenade and pulling the pin. Sure, they’ll hurt the Dems for not doing the right thing, but they’re still going to hurt themselves much worse.
Orrrrr all the ones who claim third parties can’t win could actually find a decent nominee and vote for them.
I’ll take: things that will never happen for a thousand. We keep doing what works against us rather than try something that will.
The problem with that is, because of the duopoly on federal power right now, third parties are neutered on the national level. Voting for them nationally is little more than a token gesture, and does more harm then good.
It sucks, and I hate it, but its also the truth. State and local races benefit more from third party/independent votes, which is where attention should be more focused.
I do sympathize with those disenfranchised by the lesser of two evils party. Its a difficult position to be in.
It’s sad that you can’t imagine enough people getting over their “protect the abuser at all costs” to actually try.
75 million people voted for Trump. More than that many people would need to try. Together.
We’re still struggling to get unions at individual workplaces to be commonplace. I dont think my doubts are particularly unfounded.
Do you have the same feelings for those who suffer battered partner syndrome, with children? Why don’t you have the same amount of compassion for millions of us who want to get out of a bad relationship with abusive politicians?
Millions haven’t voted for a third party in a century, maybe longer. A third party winning and overtaking the democrats would take splitting the vote for at least a decade, maybe more, and therefore letting fascists have complete control for that duration.
This is not a logical way of gaining working class power, so please get off your high horse when democracy is literally at stake.
Let’s not forget that the Republicans are actively stripping voting rights away. Do leftists really think letting them win is gonna be a good strategy for any hope to change the system?
I say this as a leftist that it is ludicrous to think letting the Republicans win (as that is all voting 3rd party federally will accomplish). Let’s not delude ourselves into thinking either A) the Republicans would actually let any left-leaning power bloc or parry exist or B) people stuck under Republicans will violently overthrow them and institute left-leaning policies/government.
Moooom, JUST LEAVE!