So, i want to give a try to usenet world.

I have the *Arr setup with torrents now, and works great, but why not experiment a bit further?

So many questions…

First of all: will i find italian contents? Or its all US/English stuff?

I got an account on NZBFind, bit thats only an indexer right? I need also to find an access provider to usenet? If so, which access provider do you recomend? I want somewhere i can test for a few weeks or a month or so before committing, so no credit card upfront.

    • averagedrunk@lemmy.ml
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      Depends on your view. Some see it as a way to preserve media that could otherwise be gone forever. Some see it as a reasonable price to pay instead of paying 15 different companies hundreds per month. Others don’t mind supporting the individuals and small groups who run the servers but don’t want to support large corporations.

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        He means whats the point in paying for usenet when p2p torrenting is free. And from my understanding its for people without enough bandwidth to seed.

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      it’s a service issue. if it was $5/month for every streaming service including music and current tv, would you pay for that service? how many hoops or hassles would you be willing to tolerate for that price point and access?

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        I don’t have speed issues with torrents / soulseek for that tho. Can still be encrypted.

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          if you’re paying for a vpn, then paying for usenet is no different.

          IF YOU ARE JUST OUT THERE RAWDOGGING TORRENTS IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023 then you are a fucking legend.

          myself, i don’t pay for either, but i do use xdcc still and i use i2p which supports torrenting.

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            if you’re paying for a vpn, then paying for usenet is no different.

            But I’m not. The only thing I’m going is requiring encrypting from all peers and using this blacklist.

            Guess I’m a fucking legend 😂 😂

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              Encryption doesn’t protect you from being identified. Encryption prevents eavesdropping unto the connection from a third party. DMCA lawyers don’t need to do that to identify you as a seeder. All they need to do is request the content from you, watch you send to them, and make a record of your ip address.

              The blacklist, maybe protects you. No idea. Though it can easily be circumvented by a motivated group.

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          90% of my collection came from torrents, but I got tired of receiving copyright claims. (no vpn)

          Switched to usenet mostly for that, but the other thing is the speed; torrents are typically 1-2mbps maybe 3 if you’re lucky and if you’re not it can take days to complete. Usenet gives me a consistent 60mbps always, limited by my write speed. If it’s not ready to watch within 20min of being requested, it’s because it couldn’t be found.

          The day I switched from 17odd torrent indexers to a single usenet indexer, I triggered a mass search through radarr+sonarr and grabbed 2.3tb of media they had failed to find previously with torrents, completed downloading in under 36hrs.

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            torrents are typically 1-2mbps maybe 3 if you’re lucky and if you’re not it can take days to complete

            That’s not my experience at all, I’m usually downloading at around 200-350Mbps (can’t do more that’s the limit of my connection) on TV shows etc.

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              I’ve occasionally run into higher rate torrents like that, but they were few and far between in the 7ish years I ran my media server on torrents.

              Usenet though, the speed is always consistent regardless of the content.

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          Even so you still have to seed, meet lame ratio rules, hope that old torrents are still seeded etc.

          Torrents certainly still have their place, but Usenet is just generally superior in all aspects, and for a few dollars a month the service it provides is unparalleled.

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            Torrents certainly still have their place, but Usenet is just generally superior in all aspects,

            Yeah something payed, closed and not open is certainly better. lol

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              Clearly you don’t understand Usenet, it’s open, you can start your own provider and indexer if you like. Nothing stopping you.

              I’d rather not, so I pay to support those who do a good job of it.