The poll found 50% of Democrats approve of how Biden has navigated the conflict while 46% disapprove — and the two groups diverge substantially in their views of U.S. support for Israel. Biden’s support on the issue among Democrats is down slightly from August, as an AP-NORC poll conducted then found that 57% of Democrats approved of his handling of the conflict and 40% disapproved.

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    And Democrats were eviscerated in the following midterms because it was seen as too far left.

    They were eviscerated because it was a lukewarm attempt at healthcare reform.

    Obama didn’t even dare say the words “universal healthcare” once - something that majority of Americans supported at the time. The words “public option” was only said during his election campaign. As soon as he won the election, he downplayed it and pretended like it wasn’t important. He could have easily put pressure on these senators by giving public speeches, running a campaign to try. But he didn’t. And nobody will. Because that’s not actually something any Democrats as a whole want to pass. It’s not just the Manchins. Why aren’t the Dems as loud as the Republicans? Why don’t they say crazy things? The Republicans get things done. Look at the Supreme Court.

    The fact is, the Democrats are a conservative party. They don’t want change, they don’t want reform.

    The 3rd party as we know it today is a joke, I agree. But again, I repeat, there was a real movement in the early 20th century to have a socialist/communist presidential candidate. All it takes today is a real grass-roots movement that spreads online and we could elect someone who actually wants to change things for the better. Look at Trump essentially pulled off a coup against the GOP. Real change for the better is possible, but it will never happen going through the DNC.

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      8 months ago

      They were eviscerated because it was a lukewarm attempt at healthcare reform.

      And what happened as a result? Did Congress start working on more comprehensive reform? Did we get universal healthcare and a public option?

      No. The exact opposite, things moved further right. Now Republicans had to agree for any bill to get passed. Nothing got done, unless Republicans agreed with the bill. Which meant legislation had to become a compromise that the right would accept.

      The same people who were unhappy with the lukewarm attempt then continued to not vote for Democrats, because things weren’t getting done and bills were further right than they wanted. Was that their goal, in the end? To drag the country to the right? Did they not foresee that if Republicans won, things would become more conservative?

      Democrats were eviscerated in 2010 because a bunch of idiots cut off their nose to spite their face. And then they got angry when the consequences of their actions came around.