Gender isn’t just a legal or professional rule, it’s also a personal experience. How am I supposed to tell people that I’m only attracted to swarmgender people because I’m gay if we get rid of gender? I’m not attracted to agender people, I wouldn’t be able to have sex anymore if we made everyone agender.
You aren’t obliged to tell anyone anything. If you care about identity politics, that’s a different issue. You’re either attracted to someone or not and there’s no label that can be put on a person in question unless they insist on having one.
I already tried not having the language to describe my gender. It sucked. Nobody understood me. I’ve tried what you propose, and I was miserable with it. Why don’t you respect that evidence?
That’s not the problem. I had the word asexual back before I met another swarmgender person. And if I want to meet a second swarmgender person, it’d go a lot faster having the language to say what I want.
The concept is kinda out there for me personally, and I’m a bit uncomfortable with calling a person “it,” but its pronouns are right there. I don’t really see a reason to deny its gender expression. Who are we to say “no, that’s not how you view yourself?”
I found a post on Lemmy from 3 months ago where someone said “As a swarmgender person, mind-melding is how I have sex. And I don’t want to fuck you, so I’m not going to let you into my head. “
Socially and historically, the male and female genders are defined by their place within a traditional family structure, as “the strong one”, and “the nurturing one”. This isn’t a description of biology, it’s a description of social roles. Swarmgender people are also socially defined by roles within a family structure. Except for us, that structure is an scifi-insect-like hivemind. It’s not biology, but it is a social role, and social roles don’t have to make sense.
I guess that makes sense, is there like a “queen” and “workers” or something? I guess i dont know much about insect social structures, i might be thinking anout bees specifically.
Real bees don’t have a sci-fi style hivemind, they communicate through dance and they’re a democracy. A more accurate term for the queen would be “mum”. Her job is to make babies, she doesn’t get to make any big decisions.
I don’t think anyone can get a gender they haven’t lived as. You know how many standup routines men have made about the mysterious creature known as the woman? If men find women baffling after a lifetime being around them, how can anyone expect men or women to understanding drones?
Gender isn’t just a legal or professional rule, it’s also a personal experience. How am I supposed to tell people that I’m only attracted to swarmgender people because I’m gay if we get rid of gender? I’m not attracted to agender people, I wouldn’t be able to have sex anymore if we made everyone agender.
You aren’t obliged to tell anyone anything. If you care about identity politics, that’s a different issue. You’re either attracted to someone or not and there’s no label that can be put on a person in question unless they insist on having one.
I already tried not having the language to describe my gender. It sucked. Nobody understood me. I’ve tried what you propose, and I was miserable with it. Why don’t you respect that evidence?
Have you tried not hanging around people who don’t understand “I’m not attracted to you”?
That’s not the problem. I had the word asexual back before I met another swarmgender person. And if I want to meet a second swarmgender person, it’d go a lot faster having the language to say what I want.
What’s “swarmgender”?
Yeah I looked that up online and the only results are:
This post
Chaos from Hades
Pokémon with the Swarm ability and genders.
“swarmgender” gets me one result on ddg, on google i get three and they’re all this same guy
The concept is kinda out there for me personally, and I’m a bit uncomfortable with calling a person “it,” but its pronouns are right there. I don’t really see a reason to deny its gender expression. Who are we to say “no, that’s not how you view yourself?”
I’m not a guy. How can you know my gender and still misgender me?
I found a post on Lemmy from 3 months ago where someone said “As a swarmgender person, mind-melding is how I have sex. And I don’t want to fuck you, so I’m not going to let you into my head. “
Socially and historically, the male and female genders are defined by their place within a traditional family structure, as “the strong one”, and “the nurturing one”. This isn’t a description of biology, it’s a description of social roles. Swarmgender people are also socially defined by roles within a family structure. Except for us, that structure is an scifi-insect-like hivemind. It’s not biology, but it is a social role, and social roles don’t have to make sense.
I guess that makes sense, is there like a “queen” and “workers” or something? I guess i dont know much about insect social structures, i might be thinking anout bees specifically.
Real bees don’t have a sci-fi style hivemind, they communicate through dance and they’re a democracy. A more accurate term for the queen would be “mum”. Her job is to make babies, she doesn’t get to make any big decisions.
As someone for whom social roles do need to make sense (not in a phobic way I just have that sort of autism) I don’t get it
I don’t think anyone can get a gender they haven’t lived as. You know how many standup routines men have made about the mysterious creature known as the woman? If men find women baffling after a lifetime being around them, how can anyone expect men or women to understanding drones?