So it is more the WWII Allies that did the colonization
That’s who people blame, yes. The British, particularly, are the ones who created Israel.
And I don’t want you to get some wires crossed here, or to be performing some conflation, but no one other than anti-semites blames Jews in general for this, or even the innocent Jewish civilians living in Israel.
It is the Israeli state, specifically, the IDF, who are perpetuating the settler colonial vision now. Britain can be blamed for starting it, and the rest of the West can be blamed for helping support it, but it is still a program of moving people into an area while displacing the natives. Colonialism.
This is not off-topic. You said “funny definition for colonialism”, implying Israel does not fit the definition of colonialism. This inevitably invites people to dispute this, and describe why indeed Israel is colonialist. Such responses are obviously on topic. Don’t try and weasel out of this.
I made no such suggestion nor in fact any comment involving most of your post.
No such suggestion of… what??? Why be so vague? You haven’t responded to anything here.
Israel is a settler-colonial state. Zionism is the destruction of Palestine to create Israel in its place. Do you dispute that?
“implying” your assumptions, no matter how outlandish your imagination, are not my problem.
“what???” go read you post to see what I never remotely suggested.
Perhaps you should look into why you are so desperate for a fight.
No, the population of Israel does not meet the definition of settlers. They were not in control of the decision and in fact were uninvolved in the decision to create a refugee camp of “undesirables” so the allies could get the Jews out of their countries. That is my entire point. All your moral flailing isn’t relevant as no statement was made about morality, regardless of how angry that makes you.
That’s who people blame, yes. The British, particularly, are the ones who created Israel.
And I don’t want you to get some wires crossed here, or to be performing some conflation, but no one other than anti-semites blames Jews in general for this, or even the innocent Jewish civilians living in Israel.
It is the Israeli state, specifically, the IDF, who are perpetuating the settler colonial vision now. Britain can be blamed for starting it, and the rest of the West can be blamed for helping support it, but it is still a program of moving people into an area while displacing the natives. Colonialism.
You again insist upon off topic. I made no such suggestion nor in fact any comment involving most of your post.
This is not off-topic. You said “funny definition for colonialism”, implying Israel does not fit the definition of colonialism. This inevitably invites people to dispute this, and describe why indeed Israel is colonialist. Such responses are obviously on topic. Don’t try and weasel out of this.
No such suggestion of… what??? Why be so vague? You haven’t responded to anything here.
Israel is a settler-colonial state. Zionism is the destruction of Palestine to create Israel in its place. Do you dispute that?
“implying” your assumptions, no matter how outlandish your imagination, are not my problem.
“what???” go read you post to see what I never remotely suggested.
Perhaps you should look into why you are so desperate for a fight.
No, the population of Israel does not meet the definition of settlers. They were not in control of the decision and in fact were uninvolved in the decision to create a refugee camp of “undesirables” so the allies could get the Jews out of their countries. That is my entire point. All your moral flailing isn’t relevant as no statement was made about morality, regardless of how angry that makes you.