• cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz
    857·
    11 months ago

    Bethesda also released a game where you get minus to intelligence, willpower and personality for being a black man.

    But they were better at stabbing people

      • TheOgreChef@lemmy.world
        392·
        11 months ago

        I don’t know if it’s the same stat buffs/debuffs across all the Elder Scrolls games, but the one OP was likely talking about was the Redguard race in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (stat sheet here). And yes, it was pretty messed up.

          • barsoap@lemm.ee
            2·
            11 months ago

            The males, yes. Redguard women are subbier, more dazzling, and have more stamina than Nord women. Good base race for a skill over brawn fighter, see Syrio Forel, no points wasted on pointless magic capabilities. Also fun side observation: Female orcs are just as strong as the males but smarter and have, singular among all races, less charisma than the males. Also the lowest overall.

            You kinda have to try hard to be offended by the thing. I guess though the differences between human races shouldn’t be as pronounced (modulo Bretons with all their Aldmer blood) but I guess every race needs its 50 stat. Oh and imperials being the smarmy ones makes sense.

          • Siegfried@lemmy.world
            181·
            11 months ago

            The “whites” in this game are the imperial, nordic have the same debuffs in willpower and intelligence.

            Edit, with the exceptions of nordic women…

            For some reason the race distinction doesn’t bother me as much as the gender one. What the fuck

            • cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz
              3·
              11 months ago

              Yeah the sex ones are more odd… When you chose race and sex I think they don’ give you the stats at all, they just mention in text what a race is better at. They don’t mention there being gender differences or those differences differing between races at all.

              I feel a bit cheated tbh

          • AccountMaker@slrpnk.net
            13·
            11 months ago

            Redguards are from Yokuda, Nords are from Atmora, Imperials come from the Nedes and Bretons are a Nede/Aldmer mix. Each human race has a distinct origin, what’s controversial about that? They’re ‘human’ in the sense that they’re not Mer or Beastfolk.

              • Gabu@lemmy.world
                41·
                11 months ago

                My brother, read the fucking lore. Atmorans (Nords) are the fallen gods who followed Shor. Elves are the fallen gods who followed Auri-El. Redguards come from a different Kalpa (rebirth cycle).

                • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
                  16·
                  11 months ago

                  Aka

                  Are a different species

                  Dumbass

                  But I’ll give Bethesda credit, as others have noted the Nords have basically the same stats, so it’s more a bad look/Romabooism than a white supremacy thing.

          • Gabu@lemmy.world
            61·
            11 months ago

            They don’t come from the same gods because they’re from a different Kalpa. Stop trying to create drama.

    • Gabu@lemmy.world
      71·
      11 months ago

      Why are you lying? Bretons, Imperials and High Elves get a plus to magic abilities (Int, Wil), as befitting their lore of magic casters. Nords and Redguards get a plus to fighting abilities, as befitting their warrior origins.

      • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
        6·
        11 months ago

        There is more than one Elder Scrolls game… Morrowind has base attributes of 40 with different races having higher and lower values from base. Redguard in Morrowind have lower int and will than average, and compared to women male Redguard also have lower personality but higher strength.

        • Gabu@lemmy.world
          3·
          11 months ago

          The only non-elven race with darker skin are the Redguards, so there`s literally no other option.

  • _danny@lemmy.world
    48·
    11 months ago

    Kinda glosses over how these perks add a couple dozen extra dialogue options, many of which are unique ways to solve a problem.

    Honestly my favorite type of rpg “perk”, one that gives a slight gameplay boost but also affects the story and/or dialogue in a meaningful way.

    Having 25% more “luck” is cool and all, but I’d choose a perk that gave me 5% more luck and more ways to solve problems any day of the week.

    It’s one of the reasons I loved Prey. It seemed like every perk you got added new ways to get around, dialogue, and/or new combat techniques.

  • addie@feddit.uk
    292·
    11 months ago

    Hey! Perks that actually (a) trigger when intended, and aren’t bugged out (b) do something actually useful - are quite unusual in Fallout; there’s plenty of them that are just a trap for the unwary to waste their slots on.

    I’d also nominate the ‘lady killer / cherchez la femme’ perk as being one of those traps; the vast majority of the enemies you have to kill are male, and certainly all the ones who are difficult. It gives a few interesting dialogue options, but there’s more effective perk choices.

  • MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml
    8·
    11 months ago

    What is this referring to? I’ve played New Vegas and don’t remember anything about bisexuals…

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
      49·
      11 months ago

      (this is an outsider’s understanding; I have not played the game myself)

      There are two perks you can get in the game: “Lady Killer”, which grants a charisma buff (or something like that) when talking to female characters, and also allows you to do +10% damage to female characters. “Black Widow” grants the same charisma (or whatever) when talking to male characters, and the same +10% damage to male characters. It’s possible to get both of these perks at the same time.

      It is my understanding that the previous game, Fallout 3, prevented anything but heteronormative interactions ie to romance a female NPC the player had to choose a male character, etc. To quote hbomberguy, “It implies that Bethesda doesn’t think gay people exist.” By contrast, New Vegas allows any character to take either of the above perks, or both at the same time, allowing one to roleplay as a gay or bisexual character to an admittedly tiny degree.

      • EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works
        30·
        11 months ago

        Small addendum, it’s not quite a Charisma buff. Instead, you sometimes get special dialogue related to your perks which looks like this:

        [Confirmed Bachelor] “Why yes, I also like to play ‘hide the snake’”

        [Barter] “I’m not gay, but 20 caps is 20 caps”

        “Sorry, not interested”

        • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
          8·
          11 months ago

          One of the companions has a super high science/medicine skill requirement or a quest before you can recruit him.

          Unless you’re gay, in which case you just flirt with him and he agrees to join you. It’s pretty great.

        • reeen@aussie.zone
          3·
          11 months ago

          And also, it’s confirmed bachelor and lady killer for men interacting with other men and with women, and cherchez la femme and black widow for female PCs against women and men (respectively)

      • Sagifurius@lemm.ee
        71·
        11 months ago

        I’m pretty sure I had a female character that slept with female characters in the casino gang missions

        • EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          11 months ago

          NPCs actually have sexualities. The only way to beat the game with sex% is to abuse a bug and change your gender mid game

  • Ragdoll X@lemmy.world
    91·
    11 months ago

    I haven’t played the game but still know what you’re referring to because of Hbomberguy’s long-ass video essay on it lol

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
      21·
      11 months ago

      All you need to know about New Vegas is that it turns Boys into Men and Men into Women.