- cross-posted to:
- socialism@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- socialism@beehaw.org
There are a couple replies I made that weren’t replied to so maybe click on later toots to see some of those
Edit: I just clicked the link and it looks so different in browser. I’m talking about my “discussion” with the enlightened truth sandwich (Damn dunning-kruger for giving the most wrong people names that include “truth”)
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DEMOCRACY or FASCISM
where DEMOCRACY is that you’re REQUIRED to vote for MY CANDIDATE and are NOT allowed to criticize them WHATSOEVER even if they aid and abet GENOCIDE and actively perform UNION BUSTING
That would be unamerican!
Incredible how a line like this can be just thrown out there as a kind of fact, a way of the world. I would love to, for once, hear one of these types really explain what exactly is “american” and see if any lights turn on upstrains on how that whole concept might be a reason for a lot of problems.
I can’t criticize you.
This was the first non-twitter thread on a twitter-like I’ve read. and I loved this lost soul:
I was under the impression that Bernie had spoiled the 2016 presidential election, and was rather miffed at him for it, but according to Wikipedia I was mistaken and he is not to blame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Endorsement_of_Hillary_Clinton
Though I have to wonder why on Earth followers of Bernie Sanders, of all people, would then go on to vote for Trump. Isn’t Trump the exact opposite of Sanders?
Reality is to fine and flimsy a weapon to remove the heads of my enemies. I need something sharper. I need fiction.
The only winning move is not to play. Libs like this don’t have brains. They don’t think, they don’t form opinions rationally by considering evidence. Imagine if you’d asked me how to better win an argument against ChatGPT. Like buddy, you just gotta stop replying lol
The other winning move is to pee on their heads, which is how @Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net because General Secretary of Hexbear
Someone who’s this ideologically committed to the Democratic party is not worth your time and energy. They don’t realize that the Democrats are a slow slide into fascism instead of a fast plunge, because they probably stand to benefit either through a certain flavor of capital gains or through being a part of a political machine.
Psychologically, the more hostile the debate gets,the more likely they are to double down.
Talking to these “true believers” feels like talking to cult members these days. I hate their smug insistence on being “right” about everything.
I think a big part of this cultish behavior stems from a difference in how we look at elections. To us electoralism is a tool that’s one part of many possible tools we use to build revolution. For them elections are part of their identity. This is team sports without the balls :/
Not engaging at all. You can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into
Save your breath. You’re not going to teach this person a lifetime of critical thinking skills in a few messages.
going to go into the thread and inform the person calling bernie a socialist that bernie is in fact a dedicated marxist leninist
Don’t engage
Engage.
NEVER DISENGAGE.
ENGAGE AT ALL TIMES AND POINTS IN SPACE
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Bernie Sanders is a socialists.
Lately I’ve had success by spelling out these peoples’ plan for them. They’ve convinced themselves that things are desperate and they’re one lost election away from fascism, but for some reason they only think about the most imminent election (I guess because they think losing it means there will never be another, although this is still a fringe idea). They have to win the election after that too. So their grand plan is to never lose an election with a party that doesn’t respond to peoples’ needs and whose only real selling point is that they aren’t explicitly fascist. Just vocalizing this goes a long way. It shifts the framing from this one singular election to all future elections. If you want you can also talk about how this strategy has been the case for past elections too.
Given that Trump tried to do a coup last time, it’s not farfetched that he might try it again if he wins.
The difference for me is that I don’t think our democracy is worth fighting for anymore, if it ever was. If nobody in power wants to respond to popular opinions and popular needs, what would I be voting to preserve?
https://tooters.org/@ivgone2far/111480094954804902
You should add Beau of the fifth column, Justin King.
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Don’t know who that is. :ablobthinking:
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He is a southern man living in the Fla panhandle he is quite a guy does tons of community work as well as sometimes 4 or 5 updates on breaking stories.
Please look into Beau (Justin King) I know you will like him and his style of news.
Lmao didn’t that piece of shit do prison time for enslaving immigrants to work in his motel chain? What is wrong with these freaks?
no point in debating a genocide advocate
Yes. Don’t take them seriously. They don’t take themselves seriously and are inherently assholes for lashing out while being so ignorant.
State the obvious facts and then make fun of them when they act like this.
I’m so confused. She’s upset at a “far left” “obama clinton democrat” because they consider a bunch of liberal celebrities 5th columnists?
I obviously voted dem to save us from fascism.
That’s your first problem kiddo. Maybe read some Lenin and next time just Stalin post when the liberals gonna liberal.
