The Picard Maneuver@startrek.website to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 11 months agoThis is a totally normal thing to find on your food's packagingstartrek.websiteimagemessage-square93fedilinkarrow-up1671arrow-down127
arrow-up1644arrow-down1imageThis is a totally normal thing to find on your food's packagingstartrek.websiteThe Picard Maneuver@startrek.website to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 11 months agomessage-square93fedilink
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·11 months agoCan’t it be grown in Florida? Or Puerto Rico?
minus-squareLowpast@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up12·11 months agoHawaii and Puerto Rico are the only suitable regions. And they do, just nowhere near enough, nor could they. They are too small.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up6·11 months agoHere is an article about chocolate grown on Hawaii. https://www.chocolateuniversityonline.com/growing-cacao-on-american-soil/ Yup, too small.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up7·11 months agoLikely technically possible. Loops back to expense and capitalism. OTOH, someone with the cash to fund it could actually have cruelty free chocolate. 5x the current price is likely viable, but 100x seems unlikely.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up5·edit-211 months agoReplying to myself. Article about growing chocolate in homes/greenhouses. https://practicalselfreliance.com/grow-chocolate-tree-indoors/ This might be doable as a co-op. Edit: they got about 5 beans from one plant. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean To produce 1 kilogram (2.2 lb) of chocolate, around 300 to 600 cocoa beans are processed. 20 to 120 trees per kilogram of chocolate. Note this is not the same as a finished candy bar or baking chocolate.
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·11 months agoI think we have found a use for all of those old empty office buildings
minus-squareSuperIce@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·11 months agoBut slaves are a lot cheaper and you gotta keep the shareholders happy.
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·11 months agoThis is why we should have nonprofits produce goods
Climate mostly.
Can’t it be grown in Florida? Or Puerto Rico?
Hawaii and Puerto Rico are the only suitable regions. And they do, just nowhere near enough, nor could they. They are too small.
Here is an article about chocolate grown on Hawaii. https://www.chocolateuniversityonline.com/growing-cacao-on-american-soil/
Yup, too small.
Greenhouses then.
Likely technically possible. Loops back to expense and capitalism.
OTOH, someone with the cash to fund it could actually have cruelty free chocolate. 5x the current price is likely viable, but 100x seems unlikely.
Replying to myself.
Article about growing chocolate in homes/greenhouses.
https://practicalselfreliance.com/grow-chocolate-tree-indoors/
This might be doable as a co-op.
Edit: they got about 5 beans from one plant.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean
20 to 120 trees per kilogram of chocolate.
Note this is not the same as a finished candy bar or baking chocolate.
I think we have found a use for all of those old empty office buildings
But slaves are a lot cheaper and you gotta keep the shareholders happy.
This is why we should have nonprofits produce goods