• Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    So Israel should stop fighting Hamas who openly call for a Jewish genocide and just let them keep trying?

    It’s kinda funny imagining the green countries getting rockets fired at them and groups come in to murder and kidnap innocent civilians then they just shrug and say ‘we aren’t going to fight back because it might look bad’

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        11 months ago

        No no no, they are fighting Hamas not the children, so it’s not their fault. The children are just dropping dead, the fact it happened while their house was bombed by the IDF is totes unrelated. Also they are fighting Hamas in the West Bank too, even though they are not there.

        punches you in the face Now see, this wasn’t assault because I wasn’t fighting you, I was fighting a guy who once attacked me but is not here. The punch just passed and you had your face in the way you antisemite. I’m sure Hamas was using you as a human punch shield.

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        11 months ago

        Well a considerable amount of those were literally Hamas fighters, they don’t wait until you’re eighteen to sign you up for jihad lol

        And yes it’s sad that innocent people are always the victim of war, there’s a lot of possible solutions which Hamas and the Palestinians reject so what’s left? Israel just has to sit back and let them keep firing rockets and killing them because they built their tunnels under hospitals?

        Incidentally the kids in the hospitals we heard so much about got taken to Israeli hospitals where they got world-class medical care, if Hamas hadn’t contested the hospital and agreed to safe transit of wounded then this could have happened sooner. It often feels like Hamas want Palestinian kids to die and the IDF want to keep them alive.

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          11 months ago

          Hamas had 20-25k members before the current war. Israel has dropped more bombs on Gaza than there is Hamas fighters since then.

          So either Israel is lying about its alelged “precision strikes”, or they are precise and deliberate in killing innocent children, women and men, while destroying every civillian infrastructure to kill and drive out all Palestinians from Gaza. Sinc eunfortunately they are militarily capeable it is clear, that the goal is to inflict maximal damage on the Palestinians, with giving just enough plausible deniability to its genocidal friends in the US and its Allies.

          • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
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            11 months ago

            And why do IDF soldiers keep dying and bombs magically fly out of Gaza towards Israel if Hamas don’t pose any threat?

            Sorry that not every munition guarantees an enemy killed, unfortunately fighting terrorists isn’t easy but you’re welcome to go to gaza and deal with Hamas yourself…

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              11 months ago

              I never said Hamas would not pose a threat. But it is evident that Israel does not aim solely on Hamas. They aim on all Palestinians in Gaza and also the Westbank, where IDF is aiding terrorist settlers to murder and displace Palestinians from their homes. The IDF itself said the focus is on damage not precision, and many other statements where they openly admitted to aiming to kill the Palestinian civillians.

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            11 months ago

            You’re talking to somebody with a spam username… they’re just a troll. They’re not concerned with how they look.

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            11 months ago

            tell that to those who openly preaches genocide of jews

            Edit: you guys/gals are hilarious, literally defending an equivalent to Talibans ? lol You de be among the first on the list to be beheaded with blunt rusty scissors, and they d do a little happy dance afterward

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      11 months ago

      We don’t like genocides.

      And one side of the conflict isn’t committing them.

      Genocide is much worse than any terrorist action.

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        11 months ago

        By the definition given in this thread Hamas is absolutely doing genocide, what do you think from the river to the sea means? They openly and proudly state their intention is genocide and their constant attacks kill, harm and distress people - literally textbook by the definition.

        Israel however loudly say they only want to target Hamas the terrorist organisation and they support a two state solution - to call what they’re doing genocide you need to belive this isn’t true, which I accept is possibly a valid argument but does make it much more of a grey area.

        And no the fact that Hamas isn’t able to kill as many Jews as they want due to logistics doesn’t absolve them from anything - especially when crazy people are saying that we shouldn’t support Israel and help them with things like ammunition, really feels like they do like genocide as long as it’s Jewish people dying.