Well that’s creepy! I wish I hadn’t seen this before going to bed…

  • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Wow this is incredible proof God doesn’t exist and nature self assembles if true. Religious people have long argued the eye is proof of a creator.

    Here we see that directly refuted! Between this and the boson particle the concept of a knowing creator is simply dead.

    God is dead.

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      11 months ago

      It wasn’t natural, it was purposeful:

      In previous research, other scientists had used embryonic stem cells to grow optic cups, the structures that develop into almost the entire globe of the eye during embryonic development. And other research had developed optic cup-like structures from induced pluripotent stem cells.

      Rather than grow these structures directly, Gopalakrishnan’s team wanted to see if they could be grown as an integrated part of brain organoids. This would add the benefit of seeing how the two types of tissue can grow together, rather than just growing optic structures in isolation.

      However, if you want to argue the natural evolution of the eye, it’s super easy. Convergent evolution says much, the eye has clearly evolved multiple times.

      “But it’s too complex to just pop out fully formed!”

      Start with a patch of light sensitive cells, may helps you hide when predators swim overhead. Iterate from there. Now you got humans with medium range vision, raptors that can spot a mouse from 100’ up, octopi with radial optic nerves that have no blind spot. And that one’s pretty funny. If god designed our eyes, why did he put the optic nerve in the back, making us partially blind and having to use processing power to fool us into not noticing?

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    11 months ago

    If those things have any sort of self awareness then creation of them is against my ethics

    Science should never make self aware living organisms

    Edit: I’m not vegan either just to add context, I eat meat

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      11 months ago

      Given that they breed rats by the thousands for experiments, kinda too late for that.

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        11 months ago

        Well those are rats that have a natural origin or ancestry

        Whatever these things are are created artificially as far as I’m aware

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          11 months ago

          In any event the article says

          these stem cells are coaxed to grow into blobs of brain tissue, without anything resembling thoughts, emotions, or consciousness.

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      11 months ago

      They’re very small clusters of brain cells. They’re capable of very baseline functioning but that’s it, there’s not enough for self-awareness.

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      11 months ago

      You people are insufferable. No one gives a shit about your ethics over something that literally doesn’t exist.

      It’s shameful that you think you should have control over other things people create. Shame on you. Mind your business. This has literally nothing to do with you.