• Fades@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m no Joe Biden fan but he has absolutely already brought positive fundamental change. To say otherwise is reductive as fuck.

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      1 year ago

      Well, if you want to prove your point list examples, don’t just say it’s true.

      Like, three things that because of Biden are significantly better than when Obama was president, and how those things outweigh all the shit that’s gotten worse.

      And I know:

      That’s not fair! It should start when trump left office

      But the main gripe with moderates is when they get in office, they take 2 steps forward. Slow, incremental progress. You can argue that’s the best method even.

      The issue is because nothing is getting fixed, and we keep running boring moderates, that Republicans get in office an immediately sprint backwards.

      So we don’t see incremental progress.

      We take massive leaps backwards, and then crawl a little bit back towards where we used to be. Rather than slow progress, shit just gets worse.

      And again, I see where someone would go with that:

      That’s not Bidens fault! It’s the voters fault!

      Well, the main job of a candidate is to get elected, isn’t that the defense for taking money from billionaires and corporations?

      Maybe we should try running candidates that voters are excited about if that’s what matters and “moderates” just can’t accomplish it.

      If voters aren’t excited about the slow crawl forward in response to the frantic sprint backwards, maybe someone who wants to run forwards would have an easier time being elected?

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        While I may give you points for your heart being in a right-enough place, your argument is fundamentally childish. Asking for citations is one thing, but gluing a qualitative uncertainty on the end of it is just shitty and simple-minded — devaluing any attempt at debate you insinuated an interest in by even commenting. Then, you continue to blather and rant, stroking your own pet notions in support of your perspective.

        Do better.

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          1 year ago

          Do better.

          Ironic coming from someone that just used a bunch of personal insults…

          Do you want to delete you comment before the mods get to it?

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            1 year ago

            I don’t see a single “personal insult” in my entire comment, thanks. I called out your behavior as juvenile at worst and at best in bad faith. Do you want to read for comprehension rather than sensationalized reaction before anyone else here sees your apparent tendency toward victimization?

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              1 year ago

              My dog doesn’t understand the structure of our solar system…

              Sun still comes up every morning tho, regardless of if he knows why.

              I don’t waste time explaining it to him, because he’ll just never understand

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      1 year ago

      Those are his words which he used to describe what his presidency would be like. If you don’t like that description then complain to Joe Biden about it.