EDIT: I know many people have a knee-jerk aversion to anything crypto, but this is not a scheme to make money. I would be happy to see this done with fiat as well, but IMO this is much easier to do with smart contracts.

I am very excited about the possibility of the Fediverse, and the potential for many experiments in instance governance. A problem that all instances must content with is trolling and spam. It seems very difficult to impose a cost on these bad actors without harming honest users as well. Either instances have minimal signup friction and are vulnerable to being overwhelmed with bad actors & defederated (see the recent defederation decision from Beehaw), or they present frustrating barriers such as manual approval or waitlists for folks who just want to have fun

A possible solution comes from the blockchain space, which has been dealing with anonymous bad actors since its inception. Many blockchains and blockchain apps require users to stake some asset in order to gain certain privileges (basically a deposit). If the user is determined to be a bad actor, they lose some or all of their stake.

An instance could be integrated with a smart contract to manage membership could be very effective at dissuading trolls and spammers. A user could stake a small amount of money (say $10) in order to create an account on the instance. This could be done very quickly and would require no manual approval from admins. If the admins determine they are acting poorly, they could ban the user and slash their funds. If an honest user decides they don’t want to stay on the instance, they could delete their account and recover their deposit.

(EDIT: An important part of this is that the funds are destroyed when slashed, not given to the admins or mods. This prevents a profit incentive to ban)

I’ve got a prototype smart contract for this. Would be interested in working with someone on this if there’s anyone with experience with the instance management

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    I think that manual approvals or waitlists are still a smaller barrier than getting into crypto and paying money just to join. Also, there is literally no reason not to join one of the smaller instances instead of the big ones.

    Crypto has a bad reputation in general because of both how its unregulatedness allows “Big Money” to make it even more its own playground than other markets and also the insane number of rugpull scams going around.

    That said if you think this is valuable and some people at least would like it, you’re free to do it, and I actually encourage you to try it. Host your own server, implement your crypto-based auth on top of it, and see if people join.

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      I may give it a try. For people who have spent much time in the crypto space, I wouldn’t find this a large barrier to entry. But I’ve gotten used to interacting with smart contracts on the web. I can see how anyone who isn’t in that space would be intimidated

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        There’s no way to give it a try, if only a single instance is asking money for the exact same result, people will use the free ones. You will get zero spam… and probably zero users. And many instances will defederate with what will look like a crypto scam.