• Robin@lemmy.world
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      I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. However, it takes energy and willpower to make a choice that goes against the nature of the addiction.

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      Addiction means you have a strong impulse for it, but at the end of the day you’re still choosing.

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          Addiction is the inability to stop doing something.

          With the acknowledgement that addiction is a disease, what’s happening is a part of the brain cannot stop choosing to do something, for a variety of legitimate chemical and habitual reasons

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              You choose to walk a direction, you choose to look out a window. Choice is a critical component of being human.

              Addiction is the chemical overriding of the prioritization of choice.

              "compulsively committed or helplessly drawn to a practice or habit or to something psychologically or physically habit-forming "

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                Again: “compulsively” “helplessly”.

                Look, if you’re not interested in admitting that words have meaning, you’re not arguing in good faith and I’m done with you. Have a good one.

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                  Lol yes. Choice has meaning. Choice here being dictated by compulsive behavior, or dominant chemical signaling is still choice. Like, your brain is doing it. Choice is not just “what color shirt will I wear today”, it is far deeper.

                  I’m not victim blaming or trying to fuck with you, I am focusing on the fact that words have meaning, and choice isn’t just a surface level, front brain thing. Choice is integral to the human condition, and choice and addiction are bedfellows. The latter dominating the former.

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                    Choice is, by definition, not subject to compulsion, and if it is subject to compulsion is not a willing choice, it is forced and influenced. If you want to be a pedantic asshole at least have the intellectual integrity to be right first.

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            As someone who has had physical and psychological dependency on substances I guess I’ve never been addicted

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              Psychological dependency is described in my comment via chemical and habitual