Damn, sanctions really hitting them hard. Utterly devastated.
When ur sanctioned so McDonald’s “leaves” but the McDonald’s means of production are still in Russia so you can reopen McDonald’s without most of the money going to America
So what you’re saying is…Russia seized the means of burger production?
seized the means of burger production?
Sounds like the worst communist porno ever.
“I’ll have a medium Fredrick Fries and Double McMarxBurger with cheese please”
There is also one thing those who were forced to leave the Russian market had to sell their companies at a very low price or government just seized it with backhand . Means first it went to some shady private players and then it to the close confidants of Putin who are just state puppets.
So Russia is technically in the G5 ;)
It feels so good to see the west wane and by its own accord. No one invaded or bombed or colonized the west, they are destroying themselves by themselves.
btw Russia is not in Europe. Europe is a term for the EU. Russia is now Asia.
Russia is as much a part of Europe as Pakistan is India. don’t give me the geography excuse because it’s the Indian subcontinent too
Europe itself doesn’t exist, it is just north west Asia.
Europe is but a peninsula.
This is true
I prefer western eurasia myself, though i respect your choice too of
good bitbit?
What is a “Europe” anyway? On what basis do we decide that Europe is its own continent separate from Asia while India is just a subcontinent?
It’s a line people drew and said, do the pillaging outside these lines. The one or two times they did it inside the lines, everyone got really mad.
On what basis do we decide that Europe is its own continent
It’s not a continent, or even a subcontinent, it’s just a place
And Russia is not part of that place
Bro really thinks he lives in a garden 💀
btw Russia is not in Europe. Europe is a term for the EU. Russia is now Asia.
TIL Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and the UK are Asia cause they are not in the EU!
Not to mention Ukraine… Right?
Pakistan or Bangladesh is not part of India either, there’s no contradiction here
Touché. Argentina and Brasil are also Asia now, because America is the US.
More like Mexico is South America
So Idaho borders South America?
it will once Aztlan is restored!
Hey, facts don’t belong in this thread. This thread is about projecting impossible realities.
West forgor that Russia had been sanctioned for decades during Soviet era.
This is why I’m voting Biden. A vote for Biden is a vote for de facto global wealth distribution where India, Africa, MENA, etc benefit from being pushed into the same bloc with Russia
Wut
Perhaps so, but now Russia no longer has McDonald’s or Pizza Hut.
hmmm, the russian economy grew after the fast food chains responsible for the downfall of the ussr left
HMMMM 🤔 🤔
Incoherence of the union center and its parts falling into civil war with each other were somewhat more important than fast food chains IMVHO.
But if not for GKChP coup, it could be preserved as a single state.
These guys turned on jammers over half of USSR’s territory, sent troops to take control of TV and radio broadcasting stations, put tanks to Moscow streets and then just went “oops, we surrender”.
This may not seem important for many people, but they also participated on Azeri side in NK, guaranteeing Armenia breaking away, and tried to use force in Baltics leading to them breaking away.
I guess the reason they surrendered was they saw what their actions in such a short period of time caused, so wanted someone else to take the blame.
It’s not all black and white, of course. If not for 1993 coup (because Yeltsin did just that), Russia itself would still be technically very Soviet (weird enough, more so than under USSR where party organs would bear power which on paper belonged to Soviets ; so - somewhere in 1989-1993 what was on paper almost became the reality), which would make its foreign and domestic policy different from what happened IRL.
So you’re saying Russian life expectancy is also about to rise?
no Pizza Hut
gorby’s spinning in his grave so fast rn that russia could probably just attach a generator to him and use him as a renewable power source for the entire country
Russia shall either be a superpower or have Pizza Hut. It cannot have both. History shows to us that this is as an absolute truth.
It looks like Germany is still ahead by official measure but the gap is much closer than before. Definitely larger than California and Italy. The two places Russia’s economy gets compared to every time it gets brought up.
Germany is also a much better comparison because Germany had an actual industrial economy until recently.
Thank god they stand on the right side of history and are dismantling fossil fuel industries
Ahahaha
Just this year, our brilliant government decided to increase fossil fuels in the energy mix by 6% of the total due to quitting nuclear
and are dismantling fossil fuel industries
Lol. Good one. Sometimes i wonder if the German Green party is just an elaborate joke that the rest of us just don’t get because we don’t have a German sense of humor…
This is where Russia should be.
Hahahahah
The text is from August though, what new info does it mention?
well since then Russian industrial activity has continued to grow https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/
Oh, I would expect so, just wanted to confirm what the initial link was about
Now if it could just go all the way-
I think a lot about what could’ve been if USSR embraced Deng style reforms.
World would be very different, the USSR would be THE most productive country on earth considering it had a head start on China even with the massive destruction caused by the nazi invasion.
Also i think that the USSR foreign policy ultimately did more damage than good to the communist movement worldwide, the chinese mutual development through trade is a much better policy. But then again, without the USSR foreign policy i think the Cuban revolution would’ve failed.
I do think that Chinese approach is more productive as well.
The source is some random site that adds more than a trillion to the usual estimate because of the “informal economy”. So they claim Russia has a trillion dollar corruption/black market lol.
I understand critical support for Russia, but all this uncritical support with zero critical thinking is lame.
Russia is a fascist reactionary dictatorship. Just because they oppose the US doesn’t mean everything else they do is good as well.
Russian now spends a whole 40% of state expenditure on security and the armed forces. That’s not a good sign for them.
fascist
how?
reactionary
yes, unfortunately
dictatorship
every country is a dictatorship of one class over the others
Isn’t fascism a component of capitalist societies that gets turbo charged when capital finds itself in a state of crises? Sort of a self defense mechanism to keep the “left” from actually making gains among the population?
“Comrades, fascism in power was correctly described by the Thirteenth Plenum of the Executive Committee of the Communist International as the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.”
– Georgi Dimitrov at the Seventh World Congress of the Communist InternationalIn practice, fascism implies a few things, such as more or less total elimination of labour rights and socialist ideas, the scapegoating and extreme repression of one or more minority groups within the country (and historically in other countries as well), and a bourgeoisie unified in the goal of strengthening and maintaining their control through the power of their perceived nation
That looks like a yes to me.
yes, your previous comment describes one facet of fascism
Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole All-Russia “Young Army” National Military Patriotic Social Movement Association, massive internal security rosgvardia, claiming other countries belong to them reminds me of Lebensraum etc.
All countries in Europe have historical revisionism in school and most of them aren’t fascist (yet). The government may have started implying that Ukraine should have remained part of Russia after the escalation in 2022, but in practice, it was very determined for Ukraine to remain intact (including a semi-autonomous Donbass) up until that point, naively believing that Germany and others would actually pressure Ukraine to uphold Minsk 1 and 2. As for nationalism, there are plenty of non-fascist countries with a very nationalistic population
Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole pledge of alleigence and JROTC, massive internal security from the NSA, claiming land belongs to them through Manifest Destiny reminds me of Lebensraum etc.
Can be true for both. I find it hard to argue that Russia is less fascist than the US
I don’t necessarily think it is less fascist. I just don’t think its more fascist than the US
The thing is i wouldn’t necessarily use that as the most descriptive term in either case. When applied to the Russian Federation, its really just something libs say because they’re the designated enemy
Russia is definitely less fascist than the US. Even just the way the US has and continues to treat indigenous and black people makes the US pretty damn fascist.
Russia is a fascist reactionary dictatorship
People will now resort to label any country that opposes the west as a dictatorship (and not in the marxist sense), even if it openly celebrates bourgeois elections every 6 years.
Inb4 “but they are rigged!!1!”
So are they everywhere else, either by limiting by design the choices (see: USA) or by limiting the powers that democracy grants to the people. You seem to be Swedish: you cannot even choose your own head of state.
Edit: my country constantly suffers from scandals every election in which governing parties shove thousands of fake votes by mail into the system and no one has ever called it a dictatorship simply because it is part of The West™.
You seem to be Swedish
Lmao
Ad scandinavicum: point out your opponent’s Swedish/Norwegian/Danish nationality to immediately obliterate them.
Jokes aside: Scandinavians are overall nice fellas but damn it, they are also not only some of the people most pleased with bourgeois order that I know of, but also completely politically illiterate. Just search on Quora for people asking if Norway, Sweden or Denmark should keep their monarchies and look at their defenses to keep them around on the replies.
Last I heard they were striking hard against the Musk empire
Trade unions are good insofar as they’re the levers of collective action, but they’re not really anti-imperialist or even socialist, since their primary concern is their membership.
Russia is fascist because fascism is when you oppose the USA.
Regardless of what the article says, it is well known that GDP (even per capita PPP) is a really shitty measure of a country’s productive capabilities or resources.
Russian now spends a whole 40% of state expenditure on security and the armed forces. That’s not a good sign for them.
I disagree, of course Russia is spending a ton on the war and yea no shit the war is hurting Russia and Russians but state spending doesn’t mean much. Russia can produce its own military gear. India meanwhile despite having double the Russia’s GDP PPP is struggling to indegenize its military equipment.
We should be better than the people who swallow western propoganda without every questioning it. Believing everything with lousy sources that is pro Russia just makes you look silly and contrarian. Critical, not uncritical support.
Sure… if measured percapita after Putin cleansed the land of all those Russian citizens via conscription.
Well yes ! that’s what an economy of war will do. until it doesn’t
Except Russia’s nowhere close to being a war economy right now.
Lots of bootlickers ITT. Why defend war criminals?
Is this actually your first time stumbling onto a lemmygrad thread in 5 months??? Lmao
any war crimes committed by Russia pale in comparison to Ukraine’s, not to mention NATO as a whole
Russia is in Europe?
somebody failed their geography class
Eurasia (Europe and Asia)
75% of Russia’s population lives in Europe. Not only that, but even if we don’t count the Asian part of Russia, the European one would still be biggest and most populous country in Europe.
What is with you people constantly trying with the “dastardly Asiatics” dogwhistles.
OK if Russia is divided with one part considered Europe and one part of considered Asia then it makes sense. I always perceived Russia as Asia.
Do you have a link to an authorative source that clearly defines the line that divedes Russia into its European and Asian parts?
Pretty much every geography atlas. In relevant area it’s Ural mountains and river. Definitions might vary a bit at the south, the river is not always acknowledged, but regardless of definition it won’t change anything in my previous post.
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