Derp and derpina Le FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU Forever alone

Millennial memes were so much fucking worse than anything gen Z came up with

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strange, the population is growing rapidly under the genocidal Soviet occupation, and right after liberation starts decreasing just as rapidly…

Nice to see Russia taking a page out of China’s book for once!

Now do “poverty eradication” and “crackdown on corruption” and maybe sprinkle a bit of “peaceful rise” on top and you’re cooking

It was completely banned, same as all other antisemitic propaganda. Here’s an interview in Russian about this specific question: https://www.svoboda.org/a/2077533.html

As a sidenote, this speech is 🔥🔥🔥: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_n_qtgUKnY

ok mom

HarmonyOS

100% agree with you there!

Creeping neofascism among Ukraine’s armed forces

Creeping? It’s been deeply entrenched for at least 80-something years.

To me this reads as “fascism has been entrenched in Ukraine since WW2”, I didn’t realise they meant the West.

Thank you comrade!

Thank you, fixed!

tonight we’re gonna party like it’s 1917

Hahaha yeah I’m in awe of how Wells is full of himself, my favourite quotes are “It seems to me that I am more to the Left than you, Mr Stalin” which Wells utters in the same breath he praises Henry fucking Ford who would later support NSDAP with such fervor Hitler wanted to make Ford the leader of the fascist movement in the US; and “I do not know if you are prepared yet for that much freedom” in regards to the PEN Club, which at the time of this interview forbid it’s members from using words such as “nationalism, inter-nationalism, democracy, aristocracy, imperialistic, anti-imperialistic, bourgeoisie, revolutionist or alike”, wow that’s way too much freedom for authoritarian Soviets to handle lol

Fucking scary read.

Ukrainian neonazis were always open about their goal to become the hotbed for Nazi restoration in Europe.

Also remember they are not only training Ukrainian forces but also all the Western volunteers. Fun times ahead for Europe when their neonazi chickens come home to roost.

Creeping neofascism among Ukraine’s armed forces

Creeping? It’s been deeply entrenched for at least 80-something years.

Suggesting fascism has been “deeply entrenched” in the Red Army is possibly the dumbest thing I read around here and it’s sad to see this upvoted.

By “👆” do you mean you’re agreeing with the comment above?

Because the links you posted paint a comletely different picture: Ukrainian fascism was created outside Ukraine, sponsored from outside Ukraine, and apart from the brief period of Nazi occupation, it was absolutely not “deeply entrenched” in Ukraine which was a Soviet republic where Nazi collaborators got what they deserved.

From the first part:

Today the OUN justify their crimes by vilifying the Soviet Union but in reality they had no presence in Soviet Ukraine and operated only in Poland and from exile in Europe. It was only after the German invasion of Poland in September 1939, when the Soviets would occupy Western Ukraine as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, was Ukraine briefly united. The Soviets would launch a crackdown on the OUN, a fascist terrorist group spying for Nazi Germany, arresting thousands of suspected members and executing hundreds. This would continue until the German invasion of the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941.

It was in Poland’s Second Republic that the OUN would have its origins. In 1920 the veterans of the Sich Riflemen who had fought for the ZUNR in western Ukraine founded the UVO an underground terrorist army. UVO stood for Ukrainian Military Organization in Ukrainian. Its founders were Levhen Konavalets, Andrii Melnyk and Roman Sushko. Konavalets would head the UVO and later the OUN until his death. Melnyk would head the OUN after Konavalets. The UVO was not a mass political organization but instead a terrorist group that funded itself by spying for the German Abwehr (Military Intelligence). Initially the main political party of the Ukrainian nationalists were the UNDO who sought to win independence through legal and democratic means and initially were opposed to fascism and terrorism. By the 1930s however, the right wing of UNDO secretly worked closely with the OUN. The UVO founded the OUN the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists at the 1st Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists in Vienna held between 28 January and 3 February 1929. The OUN were to be a mass political organization recruited from Ukrainian nationalist youth groups that were popular in Poland.

The main sponsors of the OUN were Germany, Lithuania, and Italy. Germany and Lithuania provided funding, military training and passports. In the border wars that followed World War 1, Poland had captured an important chunk of Lithuania including its main city. Lithuania funded the OUN in revenge. Italy provided OUN training bases and Stepan Bandera’s brother Oleksandr spent years in fascist Italy studying for a degree in political science and engaging in fascist activism.

Part 2 discusses WW2. Obviously Nazi collaborators were in power during the Nazi occupation, this is true everywhere Nazis occupied territory, from Western Europe to Belarus and Russia.

Most of Part 3 is about the post-war fighting between UPA bandits and the Red Army. Suffice to say by the early 50s the Red Army has eradicated Banderites in Ukraine.

Which is exactly why Part 4 is called “The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992” - Ukrainian fascism has only survived in exile, and only thanks to intense funding by CIA and the like.

This is the opposite of fascism being “deeply entrenched” anywhere in the USSR during it’s existence.

Fascism was created in the Western Europe, it was used to decimate Ukraine, Belarus, and European parts of Russia during WW2, and after those parts of the USSR were liberated it was nurtured in the West during the cold war to be forcibly transplanted back to post-Soviet states after the fall of the USSR.

Look, the fascist Kuomintang exists in Taiwan. Imagine USA manages to topple the CPC and put Kuomintang in power, would you say “fascism has been deeply entrenched in China for the past 75 years”?

USian “working class” is actually labour aristocracy / petty bourgeois. Those classes are always the driving force behind the rise of fascism. Case in point: Trump.

“Outflank them from the right”

lostlemmytors

Copying my comment from another thread: when I need to discuss “change through bourgeois electoralism” with libs I love sharing this interview:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240930111014/https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/1934/10/h-g-wells-it-seems-me-i-am-more-left-you-mr-stalin

It’s so perfect; it’s a reputable Western newspaper so you can share it in almost any setting, just preface it for plausible deniability with something like: “It’s a hilarious read, one of the greatest modern liberal intellectuals debates a genocidal maniac frothing at the mouth!”

Libs love the idea and usually swallow the bait expecting funzies, they looooove them a stuck-up Brit “speaking truth to power” and handing out “hitchslaps”.

And then Stalin absolutely demolishes Wells and it really fucks with their world. Wells says FDR’s New Deal will bring about socialism in the USA and Stalin’s like nah cause the economy is in the hands of capitalists so at most you will get some concessions which capitalists will keep fighting to revert. Stalin’s arguments are so clear and concise, and his predictions are so plainly correct, while Wells is just being confidently wrong and terribly smug about it.

I had some success with it too, including one well-meaning lib literally telling me the next day, “Stalin was right” which are the three words I would not expect a lib utter under any circumstances.