• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hell, it doesn’t even have to be UBI, just some assistance during Covid would’ve been nice. That one random $1500 check was treated like it was a king’s random and it was probably less than one month’s rent for alot of people.

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      11 months ago

      Some will argue (and I do not know if it is true) that that is what triggered inflation now. Well, that, plus business loans during covid.

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        11 months ago

        Others will argue that corporate greed was the cause of inflation, and they’d point to plenty of companies making record profits while raising their prices.

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          11 months ago

          The same corporations had record losses before that. Inflation comes from free money, it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain.

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          11 months ago

          Corporate greed always existed. Thus, it is not the one that triggered inflation.

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              No need for ad hominem attacks. Profiteering has always been a part of inflation but it’s never the cause or the underlying reason that inflation occurs. There are a host of things that go into what drives inflation but during Covid it was the Fed dumping tons of money into the system and post Covid it was wage inflation and low unemployment. Do corporations still use predatory pricing? You bet. The only thing that will really work now is either very deep recession or a depression.

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              11 months ago

              Wow, just wow. It is OK to disagree, but what’s wrong with you to just start doing personal attacks out of blue? Do you consider yourself a good human being? If yes, look at your post again.

              As for the topic of discussion, you have to learn the meaning of the word “trigger”. Also, your analogy does not stand at all, because I was not claiming that corporate greed is good, just that it is not the trigger.

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            11 months ago

            So, because it always existed, it’s not possible for it to have gotten worse and contributed more to the problem?

            Galaxy brain take.

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        11 months ago

        Those people are wilfully ignoring the 3 trillion pumped into the market to prop it up when it crashed in 2020, which absolutely dwarfs the pittance handed out as stimulus.

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          11 months ago

          That’s different. That money is the federal reserve printing, well, money and exchanging it for existing securities. They can always get money back in exchange for those securities if there is money oversupply. It is reversible.

          When federal government spends more money than it has, there is no reverse mechanism, because the government does not get securities in exchange of new money it introduced to economy.

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            Don’t forget Money Center banks like BofA went from 10% fractional reserve (they needed to theoretically have 10% of the amount they were lending) to 0%. That’s just a fancy way of saying they can print money by fiat just like the Fed does. The Fed is weird though because it may as well be owned by the banks as well, but the head of the Fed is appointed by the president.

            There are arguments though that given our somewhat teetering system that they did some “goodish” things to prevent all out collapse. Their actions have not changed anything systemic though, and the system it’s arguably the problem.

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              11 months ago

              I am not quite sure how big the impact of it is on inflation. I thought even before, banks could just go and take cash from federal reserve (borrow), essentially unlimited amount and that counted as reserve. So, from practical point of view, if they saw that they can lend the money with foot risk/benefit profile, they could always do that. And they would not have to pay rate for the money which is in reserve. So, not quite sure if inflation depends on this much.

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                I think this is a reasonable argument. A lot of it seems to just have been companies using inflation as an excuse to raise prices causing more inflation.

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              11 months ago

              Yes, that’s what the high fed rate means - they are taking it back, but because it was combination of the what Federal Reserve printed and the USGov “printed”, there is disbalance, and the rates end up too high, thus inflation.