• SociallyIneptWeeb@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    How many thousands civilians oops, pardon, “terrorists” did IDF kill until now exactly? Not a single person in their right mind would complain if IDF targeted only terrorists. But at a certain point, when civilian casualties from the retaliation far outweigh the casualties from the initial attack we need to ask ourselves “What is even the point of this?”

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      11 months ago

      When the French Resistance attacked the Nazis during the occuption of France, the Nazis would at times go to a village and kill 10 random people for every German that had been killed.

      Israel has already passed the 20-to-1 ratio and counting. In fact the 10-to-1 ratio is just of the killed Palestinian children to killed Israelis. The previous bunch of Nazis didn’t children in those they murdered as reprisal.

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      11 months ago

      Well the terrorists don’t wear uniforms, do they?

      Which means that A) we can’t know how many of the casualties are terrorists and B) the difficulty in identifying who’s a terrorist and who’s a civilian leads to greater civilian casualties.

      If the Hamas terrorists all wore uniforms (and maybe put civilians in their underground bunkers instead of their “brave” leaders) there would be far fewer civilian casualties. Did you ever consider the possibility that Hamas actually wants there to be more Palestinian civilian casualties because it makes people like you hate Israel?

      In most countries the military prioritizes protecting their civilian population. Do you really think Hamas is prioritizing protecting the civilian population of Gaza? If the government of a country doesn’t prioritize protecting it’s civilian population (and may actually want there to be civilian casualties since it helps their cause) shouldn’t you expect there to be more civilian causalities than seen in other conflicts?

      How do you react when you see people cosplaying as actual genocidal terrorists at “Free Palestine” protests? Do you ever stop and think “are we the baddies?”

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        11 months ago

        Did anything I say imply I’m pro-Hamas? Or anti-Jewish? No, I clearly wrote that I’m anti-IDF and anti-Netanyahu government. The government that shortly before the war started was facing massive protests due to its authoritarian policies, and that is rumoured by Israeli citizen to be using the war to distract the public from its aforementioned scandals.

        You should also consider the fact that Israeli authorities propped up Hamas as a counterweight to PLO, which they feared would be able to successfully win Palestinian independence. And similarly to how Pakistan propped up the Taliban, now that the radical Islamists got into power, they begun conducting terror attacks on the territory of the country that helped them.

        “Do you ever stop to think ‘Are we the baddies?’” says the person unironically supporting a government that calls its civilian victims “animals”

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          11 months ago

          Ah so you only hate the cosmopolitian zionist Jews then?

          And I see you’re onboard with the “scheming Jews” narrative. So you’re already on step 2 of the antisemitism treadmill.

          You probably also look the other way when your political allies talk openly of committing genocide on Jews. Just like the socialists in the National Socialist party right? You know what happened to those useful idiot socialists back then on the night of the long knives?

          You need to read a history book if you think that the purity of your ideology keeps you safe from your genocidal “friends”.