• Igloojoe@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    I’ve been looking for advice. I’ve been wondering if it was worthwhile to upgrade from 10 to 11. I heard 11 had ads and even more bloatware, a disgusting UI, and just general worse. But i was wondering if those are fixed/avoidable. I was thinking of upgrading before it gets too late, or idk…

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      Win11’s telemetry load is significantly higher than already outrageous win10’s to the point I feel it is a legitimate security risk.

      Things like passing off your wifi passwords in plaintext to MS servers is really only the tip of the iceberg.

      When w10 goes End of Life, I’ll be buying 3rd party microcode patching from 0patch.

      Screw w11 with every fiber of my being.

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      10 months ago

      No, they’re not going to be fixed or fully avoidable and you want to stay on Windows 10 or just go to Linux.

      Windows 10 is genuinely better in every single way and it is incredibly sad.

      And also, there is no “too late” as you can always upgrade whenever you want.

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        10 months ago

        Thank you. Just the news of windows 8 being unsupported got me thinking.

        And i’ve never touched linux. I might have to take the plunge and learn once win 10 becomes obsolete and unsupported.

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          There is a company called 0patch that makes microcode patches for legacy Win systems.

          I pay about $30 a year for microcode patching on my WIn7 partition and have had zero problems despite it being always internet connected.

          Plan on doing the same once win10 goes end of life for my everyday driver.

          Full disclosure: Not paid for this, they are a legit digital wonder.

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            10 months ago

            This seems like a lot of hassle for no reason? It also doesn’t sound like it’d protect against much if it’s just microcode patching.

            What’re you doing with Win7 where you still need it so desperately?

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              You’re not in IT, are you?

              Do you know what microcode patching even is and why it is in many ways superior to simple file patching?

              There is no effort. You just sign up for an account and install their systray program. It’s as easy to set up as a subscription VPN service. All the patching is done live in memory first and in 4 years I’ve needed to reboot exactly twice.

              I have a huge stack of retro games and code projects that work very poorly on Win10, as well as the fact that my Win7 version is Ultimate so I make a lot of use of XP mode virtual machine and booting from virtual disk on bare metal for my moderately older games (something I can’t do with my win10 home license). Can’t even get win10 drivers for half of my hardware on that box.

              Also kind of annoyed by your hostility so you’re blocked now.

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                I’m sorry, but there was zero hostility in my comment whatsoever. Quite literally just questions, and I am in fact in IT and was curious.

                Nothing you’ve said seems like it’d need full internet access but it’s at least interesting, but asking more is pointless now.

                It’s also quite easy to upgrade your Windows licenses for free, I would’ve been interested in what old games you’re playing.

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      I just built a desktop for Windows 11, unfortunately I need a Windows desktop in the house even though Debian is my main OS. Last desktop was 13 years old and just wasn’t working for my needs anymore. Default 11 install is horribly bloated but I actually like the desktop environment now. Here’s some stuff I did:

      Customized USB image to bypass Microsoft account with easily found steps if you Google. Used Chris Titus Tech’s tool to remove a bunch of shit, install apps, disable telemetry, configure windows update to security only. Used “Reclaim windows” script from github and customized for my purposes. After that I confirmed if all the shit was gone and did a remove-appxpackage for anything left, like widgets etc.

      So I have a bare bones install, no Microsoft account, no Microsoft store, no “apps,” no default associations to builtin tools, and a bunch of common foss utilities and all my favorite windows-dependent apps working. Can’t believe it took the amount of effort it did but I like it now, given what my expectations were it definitely exceeded them.

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          Yeah pretty much, most linux distros are at a usable state by default and you spend productive effort learning how to manage it, it’s probably easier than Windows at the end of the day especially for general use. I’m a heavy user of Ableton Live with plugins and using Windows is the only way to run it on your own hardware. Also becomes my gaming machine, but everything else is Debian.

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      10 months ago

      It’s totally fine to upgrade from Windows 10 to 11, it’s basically the same thing. Overall it’s better in some regards (like better HDR support, direct storage is coming and so on) and a bit worse in others (I do hate the new right click menu). No ads though and barely any difference to Windows 10 as far as I noticed in over a year of using it.

      Windows 10 already had all that stuff, telemetry, a link to Candy Crush in the start menu, it’s the same shit. Windows 11 didn’t get worse in that regard at all.

      So just do a fresh installation of Windows 11 (don’t upgrade Windows versions, it’s a mess in the background) and have fun.