Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.

“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.

The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.

“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”

Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.

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    Lmao did you think I was suggesting he’s somehow better?

    I just find it funny that Americans pretend like their bourgeois “democracy” isn’t just a poorly veiled oligarchy where you get to “choose” between the genocidal zionazi party and the fascist party.

    Neither of whom give a fuck about the working class, though one is a bit better at pretending like they do.

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      One side is clearly better unless you do false equivalence, look at the mortality rate of mothers in states with abortion bans and without etc.

      I know this is not as edgy of a take as your both sides cuntery but there is clearly a better and worse choice for the US regardless what kind of zionazi epic words you want to use from your basement setup.

      It’s not like Americans don’t know their system is broken, but it’s not like they can fix it one day to the next, they have an election coming up where they have to choose between a shit candidate and a straight up fascist who tried to overthrow their election

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        Yeah I do agree people should probably still vote for the genocide party, as long as they’re organizing outside the system and building class consciousness to eventually overthrow it.

        Just that they shouldn’t pretend like they’re not voting for a genocidal zionazi.

        what kind of zionazi epic words

        Are “genocide” and “nazi” also “epic words”? It conveys the fact that Biden is a zionist and a nazi quite well, no? Specially when I’ve linked him admitting he is one.

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          He’s backing Israel because it’s what they’ve always done. It’s a strategic alliance. It’s Nathan yahoo dropping bombs on cities

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            Is that why Biden is such an ardent zionist?

            It’s Nathan yahoo dropping bombs on cities

            People trying to blame one guy for everything wrong instead of blaming the capitalist system that necessitates supporting a genocidal colony for profit and expansion in the first place will never not be funny.

            Take “Nathan yahoo” out of power; not much will change until Palestine is decolonized against US and Europe’s capitalist interests; i.e the basic material conditions for this conflict happening in the first place are addressed.

            It’s a strategic alliance

            Correct, it serves to continue to destabilize the middle east to slow down opposition to western imperialism by not letting the region unite.

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      How is what Americans pretend to do relevant here?

      Lmao, did you think I am American?

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        How is what Americans pretend to do relevant here?

        Ah sorry, were we talking about African elections?

        did you think I am American?

        When did I say you were?

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          Oh so you just went on some rant about Americans as a reply to me even though it’s not relevant at all, gotcha

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            Yeah sorry I thought we were talking about American elections for a second there

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              I think they’re suggesting that what regular Americans think doesn’t actually affect the results of their “democracy” so it’s not actually relevant. So ig they do agree with you

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              But you do get how it is clear to everyone that you thought you were talking to an American otherwise your reply makes no sense?

              Unless you don’t get it, in which case sorry for your affliction.

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                you thought you were talking to an American

                Which part of my reply made you think that? I don’t remember saying “you Americans” or something

                Maybe it’s just an issue with your reading comprehension?

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                    Are you saying the two parties aren’t on the same side? Lmao

                    Both are right wing parties supporting the ongoing genocide; one is just even more fascist than the other.

                    There is no “other side” leftist representation in the US; the country is built on slavery and capitalism after all. Even Bernie now supports the genocidal ethnostate.