• Logh@lemmy.ml
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      Now this is serious! if there’s one thing in this country that really bothers me Is the inability of yanks to make a good cup of tea Instructions are printed on the teabag But either they can’t read Or they think it’s a gag

      Pour boiling water over the tea How simple and clear can the instructions be?

      They bring you a cup with a lemon slice And an unopened tea bag beside it (how nice) And a pot of water and it may be hot But boiling it isn’t so tea you have not

      Why can’t we Get our tea We need tea To set us free

      It’s boiling water that brings out tea’s flavor With a dash of milk you’ve a real brew to savor They drink luke brown water that looks like gnat pee And it’s got nothing to do with a good cup of tea

      Pour boiling water over the tea How simple and clear Can the instructions be?

      Pour boiling water over the tea Pour boiling water over the tea

      Masters of Realizy - T.U.S.A. Sang by a tea enthusiast of the highest order, Ginger Baker

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      Boiling water is boiling water, who cares.

      No it’s not. Sorry but if you believe this you really don’t understand tea making. There’s 5 stages of water temperature that have different tastes and for different teas: https://www.goldenmoontea.com/blogs/tea/106687623-the-5-different-stages-of-boiling-water-and-how-the-chinese-use-them-for-tea

      Tea has a delicate flavour. It’s easy to mask it with an otherwise small change. The amount of oxygen in the water (don’t use reboiled), the length of boil, the peak temperature, steeping time, water contents (flouride) and hardness (calcium) can all have a massive effect.

      Tea isn’t coffee. It isn’t a strong enough flavour to hide fuck ups and poor technique (though popular black tea blends have tried!). My coffee cup has scum round the sides, I reuse spooons and water. It tastes the same every time.

      But my TEA!? I use a clean cup every time, clean spoon, specifically boiled water, rinsed kettle, everything. If I allow the water to boil too long I have to lengthen the steeping time to compensate for the weaker taste. I have to use a dash more milk to make up for the increased bitterness and I have a quick taste to see if I need to add more sweetness. All that fucking around just because I let the water boil slightly longer!

      Saying you can microwave water for tea is like telling a sommelier you can make Champaigne with Asda grapes in a gallon oil drum.

        • Fudoshin ️🏳️‍🌈@feddit.uk
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          10 months ago

          People seem to think microwaves are some sort of spooky exotic magic technology,

          I’m a software dev, engineer, scientist. I understand that ultimately controlling for all things kettle water and microwave water shouldn’t be different. But you can’t control for all those things. If I spent the next 5-6yrs perfecting microwave boiling (the same time it took me to perfect kettle boiling) then yes, I could get an equivalent tasting water for tea.

          But heating to 100C (you didn’t read my link - cos that’s not a good temperature!!) isn’t the only thing affecting taste!

          Tea in a stainless steel kettle tastes different to a plastic one. When I buy a new kettle I have to faff with timings to regain the perfect tea taste because it’s got less limescale and crap in the kettle.

          Yeah I guess it’s all “tooling” but you’re being pedantic.

          So yeah I guess you’re right to an extent. But it’s also right you can make whisky in a gallon drum with added wood flavour. You can make wine in a plastic jug and have it taste the same. But it’s not optimal and if there’s a way that’s been done by a group for a long time then maybe take their advice? I’m 100% certain that your microwaved tea will taste worse than my kettle-boiled tea.

          I didn’t like tea until I hit 21yo and a friend made me a decent cup. It changed my view on tea completely and it took another 5-6 years of obsessively making different teas and techniques to realise how much tea is affected by everything.

          I can’t tell if your pedantry is stubborness to accept you’re wrong or ignorance of the wider picture that tea isn’t a simple formula.

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        10 months ago

        I have to use a dash more milk to make up for the increased bitterness

        Have you tried adding a tiny pinch of salt instead?