• ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      Hindenburg appointed Nazi party leaders to essentially all the levers of power within the Weimar Republic. This is something that gets overlooked in lib history because of great man theory brainworms but Hindenburg basically created a turnkey coup government for the party that, famously, was not led by a person who had already attempted a coup of the Weimar government years before.

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        This will repeat when Biden loses 2024. And if he somehow wins, this will repeat whenever the Republicans win the presidency again because no liberal will arrest a Republican politician for being fascist no matter how much liberals scream about Republicans being fascist.

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          Not sure where you went to school, but in america, Weimar republic basically didn’t exist. I never heard of it until after I was radicalized and no one I know ever was taught about it in k-12.

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          It’s definitely going to vary between people and countries and education systems but in my experience most libs put almost all, if not their entire, focus just on Hitler and they fail to see the other moves that happened when the SPD, Hindenburg and the Nazis formed a coalition government.

          There’s a few tiers of awareness of the twilight of the Weimar Republic:

          • Hitler seized power, he wasn’t elected

          • Hitler wasn’t elected directly but he was appointed by a “democratic” system and then he used that position to seize power

          • The Nazi party staged a coup of the Weimar liberal democracy because Nazi leaders installed into positions of power with which to enact this coup

          • The social democrats collaborated with the Nazis and other reactionaries while spending their time in power suppressing the KPD and its paramilitary arms while allowing the Nazis to run rampant as they held that the communists were the greatest threat to liberal democracy, not the Nazis, and this motivated them to facilitate the Nazi rise to power in Germany

          Basically most libs I have found sit at the first or second tiers. It’s exceedingly rare that I’ve found a person with an average level of education who doesn’t have a particular interest or specific education in history reaching the last two tiers of awareness but YMMV and all of that stuff.

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          In Germany it’s mostly a “What went wrong?” and the answer given is too many anti-democratic parties, and this is why our modern electoral system is perfect

          Ignoring even the lib example of the Netherlands as counter-arguments of course.