This was just a fun thing I started on my computer one Sunday. I loved the original song by the Barbatuques [São Paulo body music collective], and I was trying to show homage to samba, bossa nova, Brazilian music, and also [Brazilian drum ’n’ bass producers] DJ Patife, DJ Marky. Then I spent a few weeks deep diving into the drums. I have to be able to listen to the drum loop with no music on it and enjoy that. I think drums are a bit spiritual. I feel quite mesmerized when I listen to drums. There’s a lot of lazy drum ’n’ bass at the moment, where they just chuck a breakbeat on a song and don’t do anything to it, but I always chop my drums up, and I have to get every single break that I’ve chopped up to match.