what’s the point of listing historic emissions from the 1800s?
the focus should be on reducing emissions for everyoneright now, regardless of their past emissions, bc that shit is already in the atmosphere, there’s nothing that can be done about it, and using past emissions as some sort of gotcha to justify not doing anything about climate change is one of the worst things you can do
It means that rich western countries need to be the first to reduce emissions. Right now they are mainly lecturing developing countries without taking real action.
not only do rich western nations need to reduce emissions, but developing nations need to correct their course as to not go through the immensely inefficient industrialization route that current rich western nations took
everyone needs to change, not just western rich countries
Development always produces emissions, through construction, industry, transport etc. There are some potential solutions to reduce these emissions, but so far its still theoretical, and not even used at scale by rich countries. So if poor countries arent allowed any emissions, they can never develop more (which might even be the goal of rich countries, so they can keep their status forever).
One issue is that the countries lecturing newly industrializing nations are doing absolutely nothing to decrease their own emissions. They’re happy to export production and act as a monopsony, putting all the pressure to fix climate change on the poorer nations who don’t have anywhere near the same amount of wealth to invest in costlier and more eco friendly production techniques. Who’s more to blame, western finance capital demanding low prices for garments at any costs, while hypocritically demanding that someone else pay to fix climate change, or the bangladeshi small capitalist who’s trying to bring some value into their country in any way they can?
You can even look at current CO2 emissions per capita, and see that some of the richest countries on earth are still currently the biggest polluters. And we can’t ignore the historical legacy of theft and environmental destruction which gives them absolutely no room to talk.
what’s the point of listing historic emissions from the 1800s?
the focus should be on reducing emissions for everyone right now, regardless of their past emissions, bc that shit is already in the atmosphere, there’s nothing that can be done about it, and using past emissions as some sort of gotcha to justify not doing anything about climate change is one of the worst things you can do
It means that rich western countries need to be the first to reduce emissions. Right now they are mainly lecturing developing countries without taking real action.
isn’t this a false dichotomy?
not only do rich western nations need to reduce emissions, but developing nations need to correct their course as to not go through the immensely inefficient industrialization route that current rich western nations took
everyone needs to change, not just western rich countries
Development always produces emissions, through construction, industry, transport etc. There are some potential solutions to reduce these emissions, but so far its still theoretical, and not even used at scale by rich countries. So if poor countries arent allowed any emissions, they can never develop more (which might even be the goal of rich countries, so they can keep their status forever).
One issue is that the countries lecturing newly industrializing nations are doing absolutely nothing to decrease their own emissions. They’re happy to export production and act as a monopsony, putting all the pressure to fix climate change on the poorer nations who don’t have anywhere near the same amount of wealth to invest in costlier and more eco friendly production techniques. Who’s more to blame, western finance capital demanding low prices for garments at any costs, while hypocritically demanding that someone else pay to fix climate change, or the bangladeshi small capitalist who’s trying to bring some value into their country in any way they can?
You can even look at current CO2 emissions per capita, and see that some of the richest countries on earth are still currently the biggest polluters. And we can’t ignore the historical legacy of theft and environmental destruction which gives them absolutely no room to talk.
https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/