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  • NastyNativetome_irl@lemmy.worldme🇺🇦irl
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    19 days ago

    When Ukraine gained independence, Russia’s understanding was that it would accept the emergence of democracy on its doorstep in exchange for assurances regarding security. Specifically, the agreement entailed that NATO would not expand beyond Germany. In the early 1990s and again in 2000, Russia sought to join NATO, only to be rebuffed. NATO, in turn, has often relied on portraying Russia as a threat to justify its military expenditures and equipment buildup. The conflict in Ukraine was sparked in large part by NATO’s eastward expansion, especially its support for Ukraine’s NATO aspirations and the subsequent military aid provided to Kyiv. To understand this complex geopolitical issue more fully, it is important to engage with historical sources rather than be swayed by biased narratives.




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    We are not just believing propaganda anymore. Ukraine can either work to stop this war or keep it going with out US support. Good luck to them! Russia can say the same about the NATO and Ukraine but that wouldn’t fit the agenda.



  • There’s a history behind it. For most of Ukraine’s history, it was under Soviet control. In 1991, over 90% of Ukrainians voted for independence, and Gorbachev agreed, but with the condition that NATO wouldn’t expand past Germany—NATO agreed. Russia accepted democracy at its doorstep in exchange for that promise. What happened to Thatcher and Baker’s promise?

    Later, Yeltsin sought NATO membership to foster closer relations, but NATO didn’t respond. NATO’s military expansion seemed aimed at Russia, and without Russia, there’d be no need for that military buildup.

    In 2000, Putin sought NATO membership again, but NATO ignored him. After 9/11, Putin supported the U.S., sharing intelligence, allowing airspace and military bases. But after the U.S. destabilized Iraq, Putin grew wary of NATO’s expansion into Russia’s sphere. This war with Ukraine could have been avoided—Russia, Ukraine, and the U.S. could have negotiated. Stop believing the media.